01-06-2016 12:19 - edited 01-06-2016 12:20
01-06-2016 12:19 - edited 01-06-2016 12:20
anyone have issues with the fitbit android app now requesting for location to be turned on on the phone to sync the charge hr, i have never had to enable location (GPS) before only bluetooth
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09-17-2016 05:54
09-17-2016 05:54
For those of you that think this does not matter. Think about this, They know where you are and they know how you are moving your hand. Did a light bulb go on? Think PIN number at an ATM. See my paste below. And then google "accelerometer atm pin number" and see the number of hits you get. And for the third time in a week my HR stopped pairing to my phone. I lost all of yesterday. Fitbit won't fix the issue wake up they are making money from your information gathered from poor hardware. This is my 3rd and last fitbit. Now the fitbit app even shows me ads when I open it?
Wearable devices can give away your passwords, according to new research.
In the paper "Friend or Foe?: Your Wearable Devices Reveal Your Personal PIN" scientists from the Stevens Institute of Technology and Binghamton University combined data from embedded sensors in wearable technologies, such as smartwatches and fitness trackers, along with a computer algorithm to crack private PINs and passwords with 80-percent accuracy on the first try and more than 90-percent accuracy after three tries.
Yan Wang, assistant professor of computer science within the Thomas J. Watson School of Engineering and Applied Science at Binghamton University is a co-author of the study along with the lead researcher, his advisor Yingying Chen, from the Stevens Institute of Technology. There are three other students from Stevens Institute of Technology are working on this project together. The group is collaborating on this and other mobile device-related security and privacy projects.
"Wearable devices can be exploited," said Wang. "Attackers can reproduce the trajectories of the user's hand then recover secret key entries to ATM cash machines, electronic door locks and keypad-controlled enterprise servers."
"This was surprising, even to those of us already working in this area," says the lead researcher Chen, a multiple time National Science Foundation (NSF) awardee. "It may be easier than we think for criminals to obtain secret information from our wearables by using the right techniques.
With extensive real experiments, the team was able to record millimeter-level information of fine-grained hand movements from accelerometers, gyroscopes and magnetometers inside the wearable technologies regardless of a hand's pose. Those measurements lead to distance and direction estimations between consecutive keystrokes, which the team's "Backward PIN-sequence Inference Algorithm" used to break codes with alarming accuracy without context clues about the keypad.
According to the research team, this is the first technique that reveals personal PINs by exploiting information from wearable devices without the need for contextual information.
The findings are an early step in understanding security vulnerabilities of wearable devices. Even though wearable devices track health and medical activities, their size and computing power doesn't allow for robust security measures, which makes the data within more vulnerable to attack.
The team is working on countermeasures for the problem in the current research. An initial approach is to, "inject a certain type of noise to data so it cannot be used to derive fine-grained hand movements, while still being effective for fitness tracking purposes such as activity recognition or step counts."
The team also suggests better encryption between the wearable device and the host operating system.
The paper was published in proceedings of -- -and received the "Best Paper Award" -- at the 11th annual Association for Computing Machinery Asia Conference on Computer and Communications Security (ASIACCS) in Xi'an, China, on May 30-June 3.
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09-17-2016 08:19
09-17-2016 08:19
What a load of rubbish.
The fitbit app doesn't track your location unless you're actively logging a run.
Even if this "research" were remotely true: wear the tracker on your non-dominant hand. Problem solved.
09-17-2016 13:34
09-17-2016 13:34
09-17-2016 14:16
09-17-2016 14:16
09-17-2016 17:15
09-17-2016 17:15
@scl205 wrote:
How do you know the fit bit app does not track your location?
- The location permission is only required for synching to function, when running under Android 6+.
- The Fitbit app doesn't show up under "Recent location requests", meaning it doesn't access the location service. Nor does the location icon show on the notification bar.
- Using a rooted device it can be seen that the gps hardware is never accessed while the Fitbit app is open (unless tracking a run).
@scl205 wrote:
My point is location is just another piece of the puzzle for hackers to track you.
The Fitbit app doesn't keep a record of your movements (which supposedly record your PIN) and the Charge HR has no record of your location; are you suggesting they're going to hack both? How will they know I'm at an ATM if my phone isn't on me with the Fitbit app open, since that's how they supposedly track my location? How do they get around the encryption used for all tracker communication, which the "research paper" says doesn't exist because they didn't use current models?
There are so many holes in this theory, it's just sensationalist rubbish written to attract attention so some students can claim they have authored "published" papers.
09-19-2016 16:43 - edited 09-19-2016 16:45
09-19-2016 16:43 - edited 09-19-2016 16:45
Hey everyone -- Fitbit's privacy policy reiterates our pledge to never sell your data and explains what we collect and how we use it. If after reading our policy you have any unanswered questions, please contact us at privacy@fitbit.com.
As a Fitbit customer you have the option to keep your data totally private or share certain pieces of information with Fitbit friends and the Fitbit community. For instructions on modifying these settings, see How do I update my Fitbit settings?
As for the need for location services in order to sync, this was a change that was implemented by Google since the Android Marshmallow update, not a Fitbit change. Our team is definitely looking into alternatives for syncing. As @ubelong2matt pointed out, there are a lot of moving parts when making decisions, if I do hear of any updates as to a change coming or not coming I will make sure to let you all know here.
To clarify, we do not track your movement using location services as you must manually connect and start/end GPS tracking when using your tracker or phone on our services.
I also recommend checking out more information about the importance of your privacy here. Have a great rest of the week!
09-23-2016 12:39
09-23-2016 12:39
I understand that the change can happen overnight, but it's been already 3 months since this topic was open. Are you still deciding about what to do? I'm a developer and I know that Google APIs can change from one day to the other, and that the changes in the app can be big enough, but come on, it's been 3 months already, at least you should have decided that you're going to fix it.
09-23-2016 18:34
09-23-2016 18:34
10-13-2016 03:48 - edited 10-13-2016 03:49
10-13-2016 03:48 - edited 10-13-2016 03:49
Both the app and these forums state that Location Services need to be switched on to Sync.
However, my devices (Blaze and Charge 2) have been occasionally syncing by themselves when I have had Location Services off for the whole day. I only had WiFi and Bluetooth switched on.
If it truly is necessary to have Location Services switched on to sync, then why did this happen?
10-13-2016 11:17
10-13-2016 11:17
10-19-2016 19:29
10-19-2016 19:29
@Squidd wrote:
3 months?
The marshmallow update was released 9 months ago. The first devices with it pre-installed were released 12 months ago. Beta testing began over 18 months ago.
There was plenty of opportunity to fix it before it even became an issue.
Agreed. I got a new phone today and was excited to finally have my Charge HR using bluetooth (my old phone didn't even support it), only to find this location services issue. I appreciate the responses from the mods in this thread; however at the end of the day I don't care what a privacy policy says. I will not give out live tracking data to a company for something that should NOT require it. If this isn't addressed soon, I'll have to switch to another companies product instead (only a few months left of wear to give on this Charge HR), as the given answers/responses from Fitbit are largely nonsense. This could/should have been addressed in a firmware update for the trackers themselves some time ago, full stop. Or, even at the outside a hardware recall if it's this fundamentally broken compared to how any other bluetooth device pairs with Android. I'm amazed how they didn't get out in front of this.
Very disappointed Fitbit.
10-20-2016 12:35
10-20-2016 12:35
10-20-2016 13:53 - edited 10-20-2016 13:54
10-20-2016 13:53 - edited 10-20-2016 13:54
@TrackZero @Arrendalek Thank you for your feedback! At this time, we're still following the details explained in this post as it relates to syncing with location services. If that changes in the future, I will make sure to relay the information to everyone here.
11-01-2016 18:36 - edited 11-28-2016 19:27
11-01-2016 18:36 - edited 11-28-2016 19:27
Well, I found non intrusive location issue by android, by using dongle to sync at specific times when I am using PC to sync stats to my account. Simple!
If you are on the go, then turn ON Bluetooth and GPS on the cell phone.Fitbit starts to sync. Afterwards switch OFF Bluetooth and GPS, just like when using them while driving around!!
11-21-2016 20:15
11-21-2016 20:15
I hate it. I try so hard never to turn on my location. So now whenever I'm away from my computer the only way to sync is to turn on my phone's location setting. A small blip in a database is what I'm trying to avoid. When I'm hiking/mountain biking/kayaking... The only person that needs to know where I am is my wife. NO need to require it. Soooo many blutooth devices sync without the need for a MAC address or whatever the provided 'reason' behind the need to turn on my location.
02-10-2017 18:06
02-10-2017 18:06
Same here. Im looking to buy something different
02-11-2017 20:10
02-11-2017 20:10
05-04-2017 15:00 - edited 05-04-2017 15:02
05-04-2017 15:00 - edited 05-04-2017 15:02
My Android has been syncing without location, the phone has not been updated, as of 3:30pm it won't sync without location. Why if my Android has not updated.
05-04-2017 17:48
05-04-2017 17:48
Hey Moderators!
A year gone by and people are still unhappy with customer no service!
I bet my Fitbit won't even hold a charge its been in a drawer so long. More people need to be like me and fire Fitbit. There's better out there
05-07-2017 07:56
05-07-2017 07:56
Fired.
I am done with fitbit. Location issues, lack of support, and an inferior product ended.