Sleep stages, no info on rem deep and light sleep

[Lsch]

Hello

I just checked my sleep pattern for 2 days. One day i received all details with light rem and deep sleeping. But the second day i received other references such as  minutes awake but no info on rem deep and light sleep. Can you explain this to me ?

Also when i want to add sleep pattern in the morning they choose a period ending at the moment when i do the registration instead of ending by the moment when i wake up.. this means when i register at 10.00 it gives me sleep pattern until 10.00 instead of until 8.30 when i woke up. I do not understand why...

Moderator's edit: subject updated for clarity 

[Lsch]

Hello

I just checked my sleep pattern for 2 days. One day i received all details with light rem and deep sleeping. But the second day i received other references such as  minutes awake but no info on rem deep and light sleep. Can you explain this to me ?

Also when i want to add sleep pattern in the morning they choose a period ending at the moment when i do the registration instead of ending by the moment when i wake up.. this means when i register at 10.00 it gives me sleep pattern until 10.00 instead of until 8.30 when i woke up. I do not understand why...

[LanuzaFitbit]

A very warm welcome to the Forums @Lsch.

I'll gladly explain what could have happened.

To get the sleep stages information, the tracker uses your HR to determine how you move through these stages. If for some reason the Fitbit couldn't get your HR correctly, then it won't be able to go into these stages and determine which one is the one you were it.

My suggestion would be to try and tighten the strap before going to sleep to ensure an optimal HR reading. Give this a shot and you should be getting the sleep stages again.

Let me know if you have any further questions.

[Lsch]

Hello

Thank you was a good tip... only it is not so comfortabel to have the watch
so tight but i might get used to it...
My other question still stays unanswered : when i try to register my sleep
in the morning the watch atuomatically ends my sleep at the moment i
register. Even if i am awake for an hour. And it corrects the start of
sleeping to 8 hours.. i cannot change this with the clock... can you please
help me out?
Thanks in advance

Kind regards

[LanuzaFitbit]

Hello @Lsch.

I'd like to make sure I fully understand what you mean, as it's not quite clear for me. 

You're trying to log your sleep and have it end before the time that you're logging it. Is that correct?

Look forward to your reply. 

[Lsch]

Hello
I will try to explain once more. Yesterday evening i went to sleep at
00.30. I woke up this morning at 8.20 but i only register my sleep and
connect it to my smartphone now at 09.40. He takes atuomatically 09.40 as
the end of my sleeping period although i am already walking around for one
hour. And since i programmed 8 hrs per night as a target he starts counting
from 01.40 instead of 00.30. I can correct this manually but it is so
stupid since i thought he would know when i stand up abd am not laying down
anymore without having to remember myself each day at what time i woke up...

Thanks for your advice in it

Kind regards

[LanuzaFitbit]

Hey @Lsch.

Thanks for the detailed explanation, I understand now.

Regularly the trackers use your HR along with movement to determine when you are asleep. It is possible that your HR has remained relatively low after you have woken up and start moving around. Alternatively, it could be a matter of movement.

I'd recommend trying to tighten the strap a little bit so that the tracker feels more movement and has a better HR reading in order to improve the overall readings. This should, in turn, improve the data you get.

Hope you find this useful! If you have any questions, please let me know.

[Lsch]

Hello

Thanks for advice but unfortunately it is not possible. I already have
fixed the band very tight and certainly after the change to a leather band
(because of allergy to rubber) it really hurts when i make it more tight...
Moreover the sleep stages again are not always registered in the detailed
way. Maybe also because of the same reason but i really cannot stand it
more tight...
Do you please have any other advice ?

Thanks in advance

Kind regards

[LanuzaFitbit]

Hey @Lsch.

Thanks for letting me know that tightening the strap is not an option. 

As I mentioned, the sleep stages are tracked via HR. There are two more things we could try:

• Cleaning the tracker's HR sensor. Sometimes dirt or small particles can get in there and block a good reading. You could do so with a piece of damp cloth and then drying it with a dry one.
• Putting the HR on the inside of the wrist, instead of the outside. This can also improve the reading and improve the overall accuracy for the sleep stages tracking.

Let me know if you do try them or if you have any questions.

[Lsch]

Hello

I think my problem is solved for the moment ...
I just have to stand up for longer than 5 minutes in order to make clear to
fitbit that i am awake. Just going to toilet and lay down again is not ok
...
I do not register my sleep manually anymore but I let the system do it and
this seems to work correctly automatically
Until now it does register all the details again but i will remember your
tips to clean or turn it upside down when it goes wrong.

Thx a lot !

[LanuzaFitbit]

Hey @Lsch.

Glad to know that everything is working properly now.

I'll keep what you said about standing for longer than 5 minutes in mind.

If you have the time, perhaps you could visit our Discussion boards. Lots of different topics to talk about in there with other Forums members.

Hope to see you around.