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Maintaining weight, and the Fitbit calories burned

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I am at the stage now where I have lost all the weight I wanted to (2.5 stone) and I'd like to start eating to maintain my weight. I bought a fitbit to see how many calories I was burning and therefore adjust my kcal intake to eat whatever I have burned. On average the fitbit says I burn about 2700 a day, this includes an hour of weight lifting at the gym every day. I feel this is quite high for my height and weight, it is 1200kcal more than what I've been eating per day for the last few months, and I just feel like if I actually eat that then I'll pile the weight back on. I'm:

Male

23

5ft 8in

9st 11lbs

 

My friend also uses myfitnesspal to count his calories, he averages about 2800 a day, he's 3 inches taller than me but just as slim as I am, exercises the same amount I do, and he is gaining weight on the 2800 intake (on purpose). If he is the same age as me, taller than me, and just as slim, why am I being told by Fitbit that I'm burning almost the same amount of calories as he is eating, when he is gaining weight?

 

What is realistic? 

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1500 is VERY Little.  I could do it, but only because I've been eating 1800 calories since February.  Dropping 300 would be easy.  Last night I ate so good during the day, that I had to chase the 300 calories at the end of the day to get my calories up to 1800.

 

What do you have your food log setting set to?  If you go to fitbit.com, and go to the log tab, and under Food plan is a Gear with a Arrow.  Click on that.  Do you have it set to personalize or sedentary?

 

My guess is you have set to Personalize.  Which is only ideal if you eat and exercise about the same amount every day.  If you have set to Personalize, switch it to sedentary.  This will only show you how many calories you have earned to eat that day. 

 

Remember your BMR is 1624, so you will burn that no matter what.  When you say predicting, what do you mean?  Are you adding up your calories burned, plus the calories left today to get that number?

 

What is your resting heart rate?  During the day does it stay elevated?

John | Texas,USA | Surge | Aria | Blaze | Windows | iPhone | Always consult with a doctor regarding all medical issues. Keep active!!!

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First of all, what Fitbit do you have?  There is a big difference between the calories burned between those that do not have heart rate monitor.

 

1500 cals is pretty low a day is pretty low, even a 5' 8" that's below the recommend minimum calories for most men. 

 

First of all forget what your friend is doing.  Two twin brothers who eat the same amount may not have the same weight loss or gain.  There is more to weight gain or loss than just how many calories you eat.  Fitness level, body fat %, overall health, job stress, heart strength, cardio fitness, etc.  Regardless of what people would like to think everyone is different. 

Take a look at me.  In the last 4 weeks, much to my huge surprise...  On a 1800 calorie diet, 18% protein diet, I have lost 9 lbs, and gained 5 lbs of muscle in the last 4 weeks.  I have no clue how I did that beside all the exercise I've been getting.  I've regained over half the muscle I've lost since February when I first started tracking fat %.  Besides an increase in exercise, and getting off my beta blocker, I've made no changes that I'm aware of.

Most would say that putting on muscle in a calorie deficit diet is hard.  Myself included.  I'm not eating high protein diet either.  So adding 5 lbs in 4 weeks has completely surprised me. 

 

Another issue for you might be the type of exercise you are doing.  Assuming you have a fitbit with a heart rate monitor, it's going to estimate your calories of weight lifting based solely on your heart rate.  If you have a unusually high heart rate, that estimate could be quite wrong.  Weight lifting stresses the heart, but does not have much of a cardio benefit.  So over time your heart rate won't go down, unlike it does with cardio exercise. 

So let's do the math.  Your BMR is 1624.  That's how many calories you burn in a day if just laid in bed all day, and breathed.  Right off the bat your 1500 calorie diet is too low for maintaining your weight.  If you did nothing each day, you would lose weight.  So you definately need to increase your calories eaten.

Unless you are stressing different muscle groups each day, weight lifting everyday is not recommended.  Simply because your muscles need time to heal between exercise days.  A high protein diet will help with the muscle tears you do when you lift weights.  And an hour is a lot for most people.  So unless you are trying to get super lean, and super strong, you are probably over doing it.  You are young so you get the age boast for healing, but if you were 10 years older, you'd probably hurt yourself.

 

You BMI is only 20.7.  To be completely honest you are at the bottom of the normal weight range.  I'd bet your fat % is under 14%.  You are quite lean. 


Only you can judge yourself, but I think you are already lean enough, so you definately do not need to lose anymore weight. 

 

So is 2700 high, probaby is the answer.  Really depends on your other activity.  And with such a low fat percentage, and high muscle %, your body is going to burn a lot more calories than someone with 5% more body fat.  You are probably in remarkable shape.  Well done.  Keep it up for life, and you will live a lot longer than most.

 

So you are going to have to have play it by ear.  I'd slowly increase your calories to around 2300.  Eating more protein if possible to increase your strength, and muscle repair after working out.  Then watch your weight.  You might see an initial jump in your weight, don't freak out.  You've been starving your body of calories.  Any increase increase might drive your fat % up a little as your body tries to replace fat you have lost.  That's normal.  You'll have to just do trial and error to find your balance point.

 

If you have access to a Aria, or other device to monitor your fat %, do that.  This will let you see if your fat % is changing, and your lean muscle mass.  Visit Trendweight.com, and connect it your fitbit account.  This site let's you look at your weight, fat %, fat mass, and muscle mass over time.

 

If you see your weight falling, increase your calories 100 per day until it is stable.  The leaner you get the more you will need to eat.  So don't assume that no change for 3 months that you have your diet "set".  So keep visiting trendweight and keep an eye on it. 

If you see your weight going up, BUT your fat % is falling, then you are gaining muscle and losing fat.  Chances are you would need to increase your the calories in your diet.  But you can only get your fat % so low before it's too low. 

 

Bottomline there is no easy answer on how much you need to eat.  You are going to have to experiement on your diet and see what the results are.  And you will have to keep make changes based on you fitness level.

 

But you definately need to eat more than 1500 calories a day....

John | Texas,USA | Surge | Aria | Blaze | Windows | iPhone | Always consult with a doctor regarding all medical issues. Keep active!!!
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Hi John, thanks very much for your prompt and extremely thorough response!

 

Sorry. Fitbit Blaze, and my body fat is now (apparently) 12.4%

 

I agree, 1500kcal is very low, I've actually started (now) eating a 500kcal deficit according to what Fitbit is telling me I've burned. This, so far today, looks to be a total of about 1900 allowed for the day, meaning it would be allowing me 2400 if I was eating my allowance. This is based on no gym today and about 10,000 steps.

 

My aim is actually to get extremely muscly and lean with very little BF. I started with the 1500kcal a day because I was quite overweight and wanted to lose the fat before I started muscling up. To quickly address your concerns, I am doing a 5-day split weight plan at the gym focusing different muscle groups for each session, and I have tactical rest periods between the tougher days. Don't worry, I'm making sure I let my muscles repair, and I've increased my protein intake to 35% of my diet, carbs 45%, and fat 20%.

 

I am not worried about gaining weight if it is muscle, my concern is there are days where I eat 2000 3-4 days in a row (namely last month) where I lost no weight, so how can I possibly be able to eat 2800?

 

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Your BMR is about 80 calories higher than mine and I eat 2500 - 2900 calories per day to maintain my weight. I'm 5'7, 49 years old and about 150 lbs right now.  The variability is based on how much exercise I get per day. In general, I lift weights for an hour 2 - 3 times per week and run 20 - 30 miles per week.  Right now I average about 2300 calories a day to lose weight.

 

So, I don't see that calorie burn out of line.

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If  your goal is to get all "muscley" then you need to eat a bit of a calorie surplus (the right kind) to get there.  Google would be a good place to start and invest in a one time sit down with a personal trainer, you will get far better advice than a message board. 

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Ok, you 1500 calorie deficit may have lowered your metabolism.  Your BMR might be lower than the calculated BMR.  So it's possible you are burning far fewer calories than your Fitbit is estimating. 

 

But 3-4 days at 2000 is not really a long enough time to know if it was not enough or too much.  You'd need to look at monthly trends at that calorie intake.  A scale isn't going to show you enough specific data of that short period of time, plus water weight can throw it all off too. 

 

So my advice stays the same, increase what you are eating to a set amont 2000-2200.  And see what happens.  You just going to have to wait and see. 

 

But I'm glad you know that 1500 was too low, and that to exercise different groups!  Someone gave you great instruction!  And the high protein.  Dude you doing the right things! 

 

Just watch your weight, fat %, and up your calories.  You'll find the balance!

Everything you are doing sounds great.  Just watch your weight and you'll do fine!

John | Texas,USA | Surge | Aria | Blaze | Windows | iPhone | Always consult with a doctor regarding all medical issues. Keep active!!!
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My confusion is that my Fitbit is now prediting I'll have burned 2464 by the end of today, but I've not moved off the sofa except for a short walk to the shop. If I were to eat that I'd be consuming 1000 more calories a day than I have for the last three months, and that's based on NO exercise. If I now go to the gym and log an hour weights training I've no doubt it'll give me another 300. 2800 calories seems like a hell of a lot to me, maybe it's just because I've been eating so little. 

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1500 is VERY Little.  I could do it, but only because I've been eating 1800 calories since February.  Dropping 300 would be easy.  Last night I ate so good during the day, that I had to chase the 300 calories at the end of the day to get my calories up to 1800.

 

What do you have your food log setting set to?  If you go to fitbit.com, and go to the log tab, and under Food plan is a Gear with a Arrow.  Click on that.  Do you have it set to personalize or sedentary?

 

My guess is you have set to Personalize.  Which is only ideal if you eat and exercise about the same amount every day.  If you have set to Personalize, switch it to sedentary.  This will only show you how many calories you have earned to eat that day. 

 

Remember your BMR is 1624, so you will burn that no matter what.  When you say predicting, what do you mean?  Are you adding up your calories burned, plus the calories left today to get that number?

 

What is your resting heart rate?  During the day does it stay elevated?

John | Texas,USA | Surge | Aria | Blaze | Windows | iPhone | Always consult with a doctor regarding all medical issues. Keep active!!!
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Ah, yes, it was set to personalize; and yes when I say predicting I'm taking what it says I have left and adding that onto what it says I've burned already (plus 500 to make up the deficit it's providing). My resting heart rate is apparently 49bpm, though it's been on 57 now and I've not moved for some time...

 

Got it, that makes more sense: so it's estimating how many I'll burn based on how many I've burned on other days (which are generally more active). I think I'll leave it as personalized since I work out in the evening, and I don't want it to budget me very little during the day then give me LOADS in the evening, but I'm grateful you've helped me make sense of the numbers.

 

Lastly, just to recap, it says I burned >2700 yesterday, this is from 13,000 steps, an hour of weights training, and sitting at a desk all day. That's 1100 above my BMR, all I want to know (the whole point of this conversation) is - does that sound right? Ergo, to maintain my current physique, could I actually achieve that by eating 2700 calories on days like yesterday? I'm only doubtful purely because the person I go to the gym with is my age, slightly taller than me, more active (he cycles to work), and he's actually gaining weight eating 2700. Granted we are not the same person, but Fitbit doesn't know that, or know my metabolism, it just cranks out numbers. In general are Fitbits numbers pretty accurate?

 

It would be interesting to hear whether anybody has, over an extended period of time, tried eating exactly what Fitbit claims they've burned, whilst monitoring their weight.

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@JohnRi makes some good points regarding the Personalize vs. Sedentary option, make sure you respond with your current setting because that could explain a lot.

 

It's very common to plateau your way to maintenance which leads to some invalid assumptions regarding calorie intake and TDEE. A lot of people eat fewer and fewer calories as they lose weight and then eventually stop losing weight and accept that is their maintenance calorie intake.

 

Just because you maintain your weight at a certain calorie intake level (especially when measured over a few days) doesn't mean you are stuck there. While I'm a firm believer in FatDelta = (CaloriesIn - CaloriesOut) / 3500 as a model, all models are wrong and some models are useful. Our bodies will do their best to establish homeostasis by conserving energy. While these compensations are limited to several hundred calories per day, they can mislead you into thinking you are stuck at a low calorie intake level at the end of your weight loss phase.

 

The tendency is:

The more we eat, the more we burn.

The fewer calories we eat, the less we move and the fewer calories we burn.

 

If you slowly increase your calories in a attempt to match a reasonable model of your TDEE you might find that your weight doesn't increase because your body and mind will respond to increase your TDEE.

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This is all really useful information, exactly what I was confused about, and I'm less disheartened now knowing that I can probably stop drinking unsweetened almond milk and go back to semi-skimmed in my cereal...

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Hi,

I lost 30 pounds since January 1, by using my own formula and ignoring Fitbit's calories burned and how many I can yet consume each day.  If I followed the Fitbit plan, I'd actually gain weight now--after reaching my goal.  On January 1, I used the internet and did the calculations for my age (63), height (6'4"), gender (male), and current weight (218), found what caloric intakes would maintain my current weight, subtracted 500-700 and began there.  After carefully tracking of calories in, and several adjustments, I settled on 2300 every day.  My goal was to hit and then maintain a range of 185-188 pounds--my weight all through my younger years.) This also required that I exercise (walk, or bike, or lift weights) every day. After several months, I lost the 30 pounds, hit 187, and the graph line gradually leveled off and has stayed level since I reached my goal.  This means that 2300 calories/day along with some daily exercise maintains my new weight.  However, Fitbit keeps telling me that after I hit 2300 at the end of the day (last evening snack), I can still consume several hundred (sometimes even up to a 1000) more.  This is based on Fitbit's calculations of calories burned. So, again, if I followed Fitbit's calorie burned plan, I'd start gaining again.  

Everyone is different.  Fitbit works off of averages.  I needed to find my own formula, and it took about 7 months--4 to lose the weight, and 3 months to learn how to maintain.  

I don't know if this is helpful to anyone, but it sure worked for me!

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So FitBit does not adjust TO ME over time, even if I'm tracking everything (food, exercise, weight) meticulously?


Do I need to manually adjust to a lower amount of calories (lets say 200 less per day) than suggested by FitBit if I'm in Maintain Weight mode but I start gaining weight?

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Lol gained 5lbs on muscle in 5 weeks in a deficit 🤦‍:male_sign:

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