50M Water Resistance - Clarification?

[runwithnewmedia]

Hi! 

Super interested in the Ionic -- thanks for continuing to innovate on your products, etc. 

I was curious -- most things that I am reading online in regards to watch water proofing are telling me that 50M resistance is not adequate enough for swimming -- the recommendation is still to remove a watch with that rating before jumping in water. 

Just a a few examples:

http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/what-does-water-resistance-in-diving-watches-mean

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f17/water-resistance-myth-vs-reality-159142.html

https://www.thrillist.com/gear/what-your-watch-water-resistance-numbers-mean

So -- suppose I purchased the Ionic and went for a swim -- due to the 50M rating the watch ends up getting water damaged -- would it be covered under warranty? Are you undercutting actual resistance? It doesn't sound like I should be swimming with this thing based on current stats, even though you are advertising swim tracking. Little bit concerned about this and would love some clarification! Thanks!

[CareFeedback]

I found it is a problem with the design of the sensor dome. It degrades rapidly or is not guaranteed over the whole lifetime of the product.

[Bujica]

For what it's worth, I apparently post once a year or two in this thread, I've had my Ionic for more than 4 years now and it's still wonderful, it's been in free dives in lakes and oceans, swimming in fresh or salt water, rain, mud, laundry water/bleach, you name it, it's still as good as new. The only thing I changed was the band, it broke after about two years of intensive use. I still think most dead Ionics on this thread were the exceptions, I don't think too many people would come to actually complain their Ionic works as intended...

[PaulMe]

I don't disagree with you - but there are a vocal minority (and more who don't come to these forums) who have had water issues with their Ionics and Versa's. I don't believe it will be an insignificant minority either.

You've been lucky. But remember to "touch wood" after your comments.😊

Incidentaly my Ionic had performed well after picking it up second hand (but basically unused). But I still won't immerse it in water.of any kind.

It was activated on 27/10/2017. Battery is still 4+ days. I've been VERY lucky. I know!

My wifes replacement Versa of 2 years age has the dreaded screen shift (to the left) and white bars on the sides of the screen. Basically its had it. She will keep using it until the screen completely fails. Disappointing as it's only 2 years old. She does shower with it - even though I advised her not to. But the fault is probably not water related. Plenty of users have also had similar faults.

[shipo]

@PaulMe, I am inclined to agree with @Bujica, I've been wearing an Ionic since a few weeks after it was released; I swim with it regularly, I shower with it on two and three times daily, however, those data points aren't why I agree with her.  I run almost daily, and when I run, my sweat is both voluminous and toxic to most watches, my previous Fitbit Surge and several "sport" watches before it, including the old school Iron Man Triathlon watches I used to race with would all corrode and die in less than a year.  The Ionic is literally the first sports watch which appears to be immune from my sweat.