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I've never been much of a runner. Its just never worked too well for me (ankle/knee issues). However, I've been trying again and enjoying it this time. My question is if it is normal to gain weight when you begin running. I've been pretty active before this. I watch what I eat and haven't binged since I began running more. Someone tell me I'm going to wake up next week and drop five pounds. Ha... I know, but really, what's up?

I want to lose about 15 lbs but my goal is going backwards at the moment even though increasing my workout. Help?

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Also, that exercise is probably much bigger carb burner than your previous after level.

How does the body respond?

Store more carbs for this longer use of them.

 

Now, while it's fact that when you first go in to a diet everyone loses fast water weight from exactly those carbs being reduced in storage in the muscles, big carb burning cardio also tries to increase the amount.

So net effect can be no weight change. Possibly for several weeks.

 

Also, if increased exercise is big stress to body, if you took bigger deficit then it would like, and if you are actually stressing about the weight, you'll increase cortisol in your system all the time.

That hormone causes water retention too.

 

With only 15 lbs to go, hope you selected 1 lb weekly weight loss or less.

When you get to 10 lbs left, reasonable would be 1/2 lb weekly.

More than that you are just asking for some muscle mass loss and increased stress from deficit being bigger.

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As I understand it, when one first starts exercising after being basically sedentary (or when changing exercise regimen to work out new muscle groups) the muscles respond by increasing water to help with repair of the damage done by the unacustomed work. So, yes a temporary water weight gain is to be expected.

Hope this helps - keep at it - the running will help with so much more than just weight loss

 

Craig

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Craig,

 

Thanks so much for the reply. I'm sure there is a physiolocial anwer as you proposed. I'm just anxious for results, but know it will just take time. I will keep at it because I am enjoying it and I feel great after I run. 

Thanks!

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Also, that exercise is probably much bigger carb burner than your previous after level.

How does the body respond?

Store more carbs for this longer use of them.

 

Now, while it's fact that when you first go in to a diet everyone loses fast water weight from exactly those carbs being reduced in storage in the muscles, big carb burning cardio also tries to increase the amount.

So net effect can be no weight change. Possibly for several weeks.

 

Also, if increased exercise is big stress to body, if you took bigger deficit then it would like, and if you are actually stressing about the weight, you'll increase cortisol in your system all the time.

That hormone causes water retention too.

 

With only 15 lbs to go, hope you selected 1 lb weekly weight loss or less.

When you get to 10 lbs left, reasonable would be 1/2 lb weekly.

More than that you are just asking for some muscle mass loss and increased stress from deficit being bigger.

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I'm headed into week three of consistent running. Hopefully I'll turn the corner soon.

 

You made some really good points I had not thought of and I appreciate it! It all points to "keep going!"

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hi, i wouls say dont look at running as an absolute weight loss tool. as you said your enjoying it and your body loves it too. im 230lbs and run just 20 mins a day right now, well run walk if im honest and although my weight hasnt gone down because of it my stamina is increasing and its my time to chill and think and let the cobwebs clear. 5.30am mornings are gorgeous so please dont stop because you see no corrolation right now.

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Running is a very inefficient way to lose weight. For faster weight loss, you should try a weightlifting regimen mixed with interval training. In simple terms, the added muscle from lifting will speed up your metabolism and improve your body composition. Interval training burns more calories in a shorter period of time than steady-state cardio, and you will continue to burn calories hours after you finish. Running long distances actually causes your body to enter "starvation mode", and doesn't allow you to convert stored fat into energy. You can do interval training with most any piece of equipment (treadmill, bike, eliptical, jump rope, etc). Just remember, the intensity of your exercise is more important than the duration. Going full-bore with a jump rope for 15 minutes will do more for fat loss than a 10 mile run.
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Running is a very inefficient way to lose weight. For faster weight loss, you should try a weightlifting regimen mixed with interval training. In simple terms, the added muscle from lifting will speed up your metabolism and improve your body composition. Interval training burns more calories in a shorter period of time than steady-state cardio, and you will continue to burn calories hours after you finish. Running long distances actually causes your body to enter "starvation mode", and doesn't allow you to convert stored fat into energy. You can do interval training with most any piece of equipment (treadmill, bike, eliptical, jump rope, etc). Just remember, the intensity of your exercise is more important than the duration. Going full-bore with a jump rope for 15 minutes will do more for fat loss than a 10 mile run.

Any exercise is an inefficient way to lose weight, studies have shown that up, without diet involved eating levels go up, sometimes more than you burn. And that actually happens more on lifting - because body wants surplus to improve because of workload.

 

Diet is for weight loss, done right only fat loss, done wrong includes muscle mass loss.

Exercise is for heart health and body improvement, done right supports just fat loss, done wrong encourages muscle mass loss.

 

So the running would just be increasing the daily burn, meaning you take your 500 cal deficit off, you are eating more. So it can be useful in that regard, letting you eat more, which could mean better adherance.

 

But to your point, the lifting is going to help retain muscle mass, the running won't (except legs). If deficit is reasonable though, it wouldn't cause more than what would happen anyway diet alone with no exercise.

 

But you aren't going to get much added muscle from lifting while in a deficit at all, maybe up to a pound if you do progressive overload fast and hit limits with existing muscle, and still have a good amount of fat to lose. But muscle only burns 6 cal / lb / day, the increase to metabolism isn't that great. When being used of course it's better.

 

Not sure how fast you think you can enter starvation mode, but it takes 72 hrs of actual fasting for the body to start adapting, what you seem to be implying just isn't going to happen unless you have unreasonable deficit, in which case that effect can happen without the running, and could happen with the lifting too.

And not converting fat to energy - that doesn't change with starvation mode. Changes with actual starving, but that's actual starving, like not eating, or eating 200 calories daily. Starvation mode doesn't change the fuel energy is pulled from. If doing hard intervals - 100 % carbs on hard part, probably 50% fat on easy part. If doing slow cardio - fat perhaps around 50%.

 

The interval training done right after lifting is indeed better than just slow cardio, but you don't even need to do cardio if doing the lifting, except for perhaps heart health.

If you have the time, just lift more, skip the intervals. Just do your 20 min warm-down cardio after lifting.

Now the intervals would be useful again to increase daily burn enough that you could eat more - perhaps making compliance easier.

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I love all the replies. I take it as encouragement and am learning something as well. I run pretty slow (12 min mile right now). Up to 2 miles is comfortable. I'm not looking for long distance. I want to be healthy and look healthy. Adding some weights can only help with that. I figure running and maintaining a sensible diet will get me where I want to be.

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sjcostanza wrote:                                                                                                                                        Going full-bore with a jump rope for 15 minutes will do more for fat loss than a 10 mile run.

Huh? I beg to differ. While I won't disparage jumping rope as an exercise (it is a very good one) I think that a 10 mile run will burn a lot more calories than 15 minutes of jumping rope - I doubt that many people can go "full-bore" for 15 minutes - can't sprint for 10 miles either - 

 

I put 15 minute "jumping rope - fast" into the activity calculator and it came up with 193 calories burned - if you even burned twice that that you would still be under 400 calories! I don't understand how this can help me lose more weight than running 10 miles and burning about 1000 calories at 100/mile.

 

Please, enlighten me

 

Thanks

Craig

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