Allow us to move or delete Cardio Load prompt

There is a new Activity called Cardio Load on my home page and I cannot move or delete it. I don't care about it. I want to see my Steps on the top of the list and now I can't see them because of this new Activity and the size of my iPhone mini. This is ridiculous.

 

Moderator Edit: Clarified subject

547 Comments
SunsetRunner
Not applicable

I will continue to post here and interact with Fitbit until this is disabled. This is ridiculous and a feature that should be easily opted out of. I do not need or want the cardio load prompts or that data retained. As others have stated, it is inaccurate anyway.

Fastfred1959
Recovery Runner

Fitbit users go to page 12 about 3/4 of the way down the page and there are easy instructions on how to disable cardio load. You can't click on the cardio load tile again or it will come back up. I'm still curious as to why one of the moderators didn't give this information?


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SaraKate
Jogger
I understand how to disable that, what I am saying is that I HAVE disabled
that, and that the prompts/suggestions still load on the home page when I
open the app on my phone. It seems like it would be the simplest of fixes
to make so that when you disable the cardio load it also disables the
prompts, but it does not.
orracle
Runner

I HATE the target messages! First of all, I don't need the motivation and secondly, they always wrong. Please give us a way to opt out!

Fastfred1959
Recovery Runner

Try resetting your Fitbit and then follow the steps on page 12 of the posts. I did this and have not had a prompt in 11 days. The main reason Fitbit won't advise you on how to do this is they think the cardio load is the best feature they have done in a long time. That shows you how out of touch they are with their users. It takes a real person to admit they made a mistake and their ego won't allow them to admit this huge mistake. 

Bonniebonnie
Recovery Runner

@Fastfred1959

I've followed those instructions every week for a month now. It always comes back a week after deleting the data. As soon as it collects enough data, it will prompt again. I've done it many times already. I'm sick of it.

ASHA10
Stepping Up
Yup. I can't make it work either.
Flindo
First Steps

Yes please remove this feature or make it optional. I did nearly 40,000 steps yesterday and apparently I am ‘at risk of undertraining’ the feature is annoying, inaccurate and potentially dangerous. I didn’t ask for it and I can’t even close it as the little x has stopped working. Why haven’t you done anything about it yet? 

Bexielou
First Steps

After getting a new fitbit it took a week and the cardio load prompt came back. It is not only useless and annoying but also wildly inaccurate and dangerous. Not that I pay attention to it but as someone who does three hiit and one strength class a week do not come and tell me my load is low and I need to work harder. Firstly, don't tell me anything, insights are not required, secondly allow me to delete, thirdly, fix your algorithm. I would have thrown my fitbit in the bin because of this but the new one was a free replacement. 

guitargrrl
Jogger

For me, I thought cardio load would keep me motivated initially, but it seems like the feature is severely flawed. I would get a message that I was overtraining on one day, do my regular workout and get in 15K steps anyway that day, go to sleep, and wake up with a message that I was undertraining. Rinse and repeat. I don’t understand this logic. I turned off the feature, yet like everyone else, the annoying notification won’t go away. 

Lili-94
Recovery Runner
There are effectively variations of the TRIMP algorithm that would be more
accurate, but they require access to sensitive personal (medical) data that
Google/Fitbit doesn't want to have to store. That part is perfectly
legitimate. But given that the non-tuned algorithm is not very accurate,
but that the inaccuracy (and the prodding) seem to be generating a lot of
stress for Fitbit users, many of whom may be looking for alternatives, it
would seem like such an easy fix to allow us to remove that "feature". I'm
sure the Google/Fitbit marketing teams think it's wonderful, so probably
the only way to get some attention will be to bring our comments to the
sites where they review and sell Fitbit.
KirstyLouNZ
First Steps

This is the response I have just got from Fitbit support… so basically nothing is being done until enough people vote on it… so frustrating!!! 

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MarkEvans
First Steps

Bummer. This Product Feature request currently has 429 votes, putting it on Page 7 of the suggestions (see https://community.fitbit.com/t5/Product-Feedback/idb-p/features/tab/most-kudoed/page/7 -- make sure you sort by "Top").

Although this bug is amazingly annoying and yet SO easy to fix, if Google goes by that priority list, they will sit on this forever.

Zzcc0000
Recovery Runner

I raised a query about this through the online chat, and received an email from Customer Support.  The info they provided was unhelpful.  Now that I've calmed down, I've tried to respond appropriately to obtain a helpful answer - and using the 'reply' button, I received the message 'You have emailed an address that is no longer being monitored.'   (This is the second time this has happened to me.)  I’ve tried forwarding the email to them by re-entering the address that was provided (in case there was some sort of corruption 'behind the scenes'), with the same result.  Does anyone have any alternative email address I could try, please?  Many thanks.

MimiJong
First Steps

I am also very annoyed but this "feature". After trying the "fix" i can't even X it away any longer. Even if Fitbit doesn't want to remove it completely, at least give us the option to toggle it on or off and let people choose themselves. 

Jennie_S
First Steps

Another vote to remove this message. It's annoying and feels like shaming. I don't mind the cardio load tile but I don't need the daily judgement. No matter what I do I'm either needing to get back on track or training too hard. It doesn't even align with the daily readiness score. 

Juliann46
Jogger

I've got tired of the cardio load prompt message popping up every time I look at the app, even though I have that tab turned off. So I've decided to end my premium subscription when it expires,  and will look for a different fitness band when I need a new one. Such a shame as I used to find it helpful, but an unwanted message that is no use to me has changed my experience. Is it so difficult to make the message optional? 

PhilipS71836
First Steps

Please please let us opt out of the cardio load nonsense. Not only is it annoying but it useless and bears no relation to my goals. I’ve taken to training when it tells me not to just to spite it. 

Bexielou
First Steps

Hahahaha @PhilipS71836 I'm the same! It's giving me... You might want to slow down. I actually told it where to go out loud and went to a workout class. Even the readiness score I thought was total nonsense as it never seemed to resemble anything sensible! I commented on the app store and they told me to comment here... So we shall continue to spam the board. 

Fastfred1959
Recovery Runner

The cardio load prompt came back again it wants me to get  three hundred and nine to three hundred and forty five cardio score??!! One thing I don't understand is why anyone would have a premium subscription with Fitbit??? They obviously don't care about their customers 

Dreamerwins
Jogger

I thought it was a joke. Tells me to take a break today because  i have  been overtraining for the past 2 days. No... I have been sitting at my PC working and have done less that 4000 steps!

I have been looking for an alternative to fitbit but they are all so huge and would be ridiculous on my wrist. 

Will have to find something soon as I will not go over to Google...that already knows most things about me. Not telling it what i eat, how much I weigh and how many hours I sleep as well!! 

Cheezel
First Steps

The cardio load message should be an optional metric, just like everything else on the dashboard. Even in notification format, it should pop up at most once per day - in the morning - rather than constantly throughout the day. Message accuracy and consistency needs to improve. The target cardio load range changes for no apparent reason within a short space of time. Even the wording within a notification gives mixed messages: "You've been maintaining fitness recently... aiming for 38 to 81 cardio load today will help you get back on track to improve your cardio fitness."

VanMac1253
Recovery Runner

Cardio Load is a joke!  First, Fitbit cannot explain how it is calculated, or what the range is.  I have the cardio load toggle turned off, but I still get the shaming message every morning.  Not only is it annoying, but it is woefully out of step (pun intended) with us users.  It uses the word "train" which presupposes that it knows my fitness goals.  Wrong.  For example, I am a 61 year old female, who is in good shape and I exercise six days a week.  This weekend I had 324 zone minutes, since I jogged a combined 11 miles. I was feeling pretty good about my accomplishment.  But no, I wake up this morning and fitbit  tells me that I am at risk for "undertraining", and that I need a cardio load of up to 170 to "get back on track".  WTF?  What is it that it thinks I'm training for?  A marathon?  A triathlon?   And on the days that it seems to catch up with my activity, it tells me I'm at risk for overtraining and to back off.  The idea that I need to improve my Cardio Fitness is just annoying since it already is "Excellent" according to Fitbit itself.  PLEASE LET US REMOVE THIS ARROGANT, SHAMING AND WORTHLESS MESSAGE!

Kathleen5
Jogger

Good morning:

 

Do you care what your customers want?  This cardio load notification is annoying and unnecessary.  Why do you not give us the option of turning it off?  Do better. 

candace626
Jogger

I hate the cardio load notification. I have the feature turned off and have deleted my cardio load data, but it always comes back. I tried using the feature and I found it inaccurate and demotivating. It would say “you’re at risk of overtraining, rest!” And then “you haven’t done enough and are off track” the next day. Please let us turn off this annoying notification if we don’t want to use the flawed cardio load setting! 

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