Allow us to move or delete Cardio Load prompt

There is a new Activity called Cardio Load on my home page and I cannot move or delete it. I don't care about it. I want to see my Steps on the top of the list and now I can't see them because of this new Activity and the size of my iPhone mini. This is ridiculous.

 

Moderator Edit: Clarified subject

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Calif.Sharon
Runner

I know, right? 

I've noticed that many people in the Community Forum have been complaining about the cardio nag screens that continually pop up despite deleting all cardio data on a regular basis. 

If anyone at Google happens to read the Community Forum comments, NO ONE wants the nag notices since it was added last year, and EVERYONE hates it. Why does Google insist on keeping a feature that NO ONE WANTS?? At the least, it should be an option to opt out. Seriously.

marugg
First Steps

Hi @LizzyFitbit, is there any update on this? 

Just today the app told me I am at risk of overtraining, I am on target, and am at risk of undertraining, all within the space of a hour or so. This feature is not helpful, or worse, could actively do people harm if they try to stick with what it suggests. I would suggest doing away with it completely, but at a minimum offering users the ability to switch it off. 

I am a long time FitBit user and I have a lot of love for the product, but with the direction the app has been headed in recent years I don't see myself sticking around for much longer, it's become progressively more frustrating to use. This Cardio Load box might be straw that breaks the camel's back for a lot of us. 

Thank you for passing this request to the FitBit team. Cheers!

Calif.Sharon
Runner

Agreed!  Wrong notifications are much worse than no notifications at all.

Do it right, or take that option off completely!

cpc54
Jogger

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Yesterday I had shingles vaccination. I was advised by the nurse to take it easy today especially if I had a reaction to it. I did have a reaction not a bad one but enough to cause joint pain and flu symptoms. 

Fitbit has decided that my readiness is high and I need to step up to the mark. My readiness does not feel high and I'm going to listen to a health professional and not a poorly implemented algorithm. 

The amount of time the request to disable these shaming popups has been "under consideration" is ridiculous for what is a trivial change. I note that Fitbit labs are talking about new features. How about they fix the existing issues first?

dogwalker77
First Steps

It appears the decision makers aren't making the resources available to address this issue. Maybe a motivational message would help: "You are at risk of losing Fitbit Premium subscribers due to a failure to remove cardio load messages." My Fitbit is a few years old and I will need to replace it soon. If the cardio load messages continue to appear, my new fitness tracker won't be a Fitbit.

Alyab
Jogger

This will probably get removed for not contributing to the conversation, but in the most circular of stupidity, after reaching out through the help chat yesterday asking that my feedback requesting the removal of the cardio load feature be logged, I got this email from Fitbit support… which took me right back here. 

“Thanks for reaching out to the Fitbit Customer Care Team regarding the cardio load notification.

In line with this, please be informed that the cardio load notification has no option to turn it off as per our higher team. What we recommend is to submit a feature request to completely disable Cardio load in the Product Feedback Forum, for our engineering team notified on this. Thank you!“

 

If this is Google’s idea of intaking feedback, then there is little hope of change. 

jumper1029
First Steps

I hate this useless notification. Not only is it constantly shaming people, you can’t remove it because the x button doesn’t work. The information is totally useless anyway. Improve my cardio load? WTH does that even mean. 
Get rid of it or at least allow people to opt out of it.

 

sadietowns
First Steps
coming back to this thread months later to add once my premium subscription
runs out i’m getting a different fitness tracker. i’m appalled it’s taken
them this long to fix / these stupid notifications affect me so much one
minute telling me over training the next minute im under i’m so
disappointed with fitbit
cyndeewillow
Recovery Runner

Just an update: 
I started using Cardio Load again and this is what is happening now.
I am not an athlete. I just walk my steps (usually 10k) and do stationary bike most days for an hour. That's it. 
This is enough to elevate my heart rate enough to get active zone minutes.
So now, for days on end, if won't give me cardio load information but keeps telling me I need a recovery day. So I guess Fitbit wants me to stay in bed like an invalid today? I do not need to stop walking and cycling. Those are, in fact, what Fitbit considers lower intensity activities. Fitbit is a disaster. 

ratty_ace
First Steps

I hadn't seen the pop-up for a few weeks and thought maybe it had FINALLY been removed after months and literally hundreds of complaints, but no, it's back. This morning it told me I had been pushing it lately and needed to rest, giving me a target of 1-4 cardio load. I dismissed it. It came back a while later saying my readiness is high and I should get moving to maintain my fitness with a goal of... 1-4 cardio load. Why on earth would the same target have such different messaging? This feature is unreliable nonsense. I'm recovering from major surgery, I care even less than normal what fitbit has to say about the cardio load I should be getting, yet it's going to continue to harrass me. This feature should never even have been launched, it's broken, it's only ever rude, and it's dangerous.

cpc54
Jogger

Is anyone from Fitbit actually listening? Lots of complaints about this useless feature on Reddit as well as here. Switching to a different smartwatch or perhaps a smart ring when I can afford it. Shame because apart from Fitbit I like my Pixel 3 watch 

Calif.Sharon
Runner

I doubt it, unfortunately.  Or, if anyone is monitoring these comments, there doesn't seem to be any interest in deleting the features that end users hate.

Cefynques
First Steps
At risk of undertraining message this morning.
YES! Because I am having a Fibromyalgic flare and can hardly walk?
Get this sorted FITBIT
SKramerDean
First Steps

YES. The cardio load for a swim is always zero due to the way HR is taken. ZERO. Thus, I’m “under training”.  Another post talks about the inaccuracy of the calculations. I agree. Until the quality of the data improves, these banners are annoying and demoralizing at best and dangerous at worst. 

Calif.Sharon
Runner

Yep, the cardio nag notification returned for me this morning.  And the mobile app was acting wonky (couldn't log in my glucose numbers; had to do a cold boot on my phone).  Is this the beginning of the end?

CoCoLove10
Jogger

Maybe some social media exposure will get them to do something about this. We all know that they’re just sitting around reading these comments and intentionally doing nothing about it.

Is there REALLY no moderator that can give us any updates? Did DOGE fire everyone here too? 

Ncdrew2
First Steps

I know everyone who has commented here really despises the reminders and messaging. But I looked at the list of requests and we are #12 (ranked by number of people voting for a specific change or request). The top ones have thousands of comments and this topic has less than 700. So I don't think anything is going to happen for quite a while, if at all. The only way this is likely to get elevated to an action status is if MANY more comments are logged in. So complain away! My latest complaint is that I took a trip to NYC and walked A LOT. I logged many miles of steps for three days. The app screamed at me for days to rest, I was supposedly in danger of getting hurt. After I slowed down for a few days the messages told me I was at risk of undertraining. Haha. Brilliant.

Calif.Sharon
Runner

That doesn't give me much encouragement that anything will be done. But I'll keep commenting on how annoying the cardio nag notification is and hope for the best but expect the worst!

Meg8987
Jogger

I agree with everyone here! I cannot believe it's been five months since the original comment was made and still no action has been made on FitBit's end. This is clearly a feature users want the option to remove. The suggestion to ramp up activity levels to "get back on track" even after days of heavy exercise are persistent. For anyone receiving these type of notifications that don't know how to listen to their bodies, these notifications can be dangerous. 

Ishagirl
First Steps

Yes to CoCoLove10 comment-  everyone should start leaving reviews on the app store. I did. At least we can warn others. CardioLoad is a load of...!   

Google/Fitbit fix this already!

LZeeW
Space Racer

I turned this feature off.  I don't want to use it.  I deleted all old cardio load data.  I don't want or need multiple daily pop us for a feature that I don't use.  Make it stop.  Make this a priority.

Dee95
Jogger

I get told I’m at risk of over training and should rest, immediately followed by you’ve been doing really well recently were increasing your target. Make you mind up which is it? 
ordered myself a new smart watch because I just can’t see it getting sorted and so very fed up with the unrequited pop up. 

zoezoezoe
Recovery Runner

Hi @LizzyFitbit - how long do feature requests typically stay at this status? It looks like there are many requests that have been “under consideration” for several years.

I’m pretty confident that no Fitbit features take several years to develop so why aren’t features moved to “not currently planned” if they’re really stale and haven’t ever been moved to being worked on? Or phrased differently why keep a really long backlog of items that you’ll likely never launch - it feels a bit misleading to users if it’s hard to infer from the “under consideration” status if a feature will ever be worked on?

CoCoLove10
Jogger

Still getting these notifications after REPEATEDLY disabling, and going so far as to regularly deleting cardio load data.

My watch is now giving me body responses from just opening the Fitbit app. 

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Calif.Sharon
Runner

So it's getting worse??

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