Abdominal fat

[JuanJoFitbit]

Hi everyone! Besides diet, what exercises have helped you to lose abdominal fat?

[t.parker]

You can't target abdominal fat with any exercise. Abs is made in the kitchen.

[shipo]

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@t.parker wrote:

You can't target abdominal fat with any exercise. Abs is made in the kitchen.

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Well, yes and no.  When you have worked off the fat from elsewhere, then pretty much any exercise targets belly fat.

In my case, after spending pretty much the entire last 4 years away from running, I gained a fairly impressive belly; I was finally able to start running again at the end of December and have already lost two belt notches.  🙂

[t.parker]

@shipo there is no yes and no here. Of course, if your body removed fat everywhere else then the only fat to lose is belly fat but it doesn't mean you may target it. Your body decides where and how to lose the fat and saying otherwise is just repeating the myth. Then people believe things like that doing 100 crunches a day will target abdominal fat. It won't 🙂 We can help others by not spreading false information about fitness. That's already a good thing.

[Heybales]

Chair pushbacks and fork putdowns.

12 oz curls turned out not to be useful.

[Heybales]

Plus at that point - 100 crunches is not really going to burn much to help with your daily burn.

Which obviously you just need to eat less than the daily burn to lose fat, but crunches won't increase it much to help with perhaps sustaining a low calorie diet compared to getting to eat more because you are burning more.

Never done enough crunches to know if it would make me feel hungrier too.

Walking for a low calorie burn makes me hungrier than a higher calorie burn, so not worth it in my book.

[shipo]

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@Heybales wrote:

Never done enough crunches to know if it would make me feel hungrier too.

Walking for a low calorie burn makes me hungrier than a higher calorie burn, so not worth it in my book.

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Agreed, going for a late afternoon hike makes me ravenous, going for a late afternoon run just makes me sweaty.  😛

[SunsetRunner]

Decrease cortisol, gluten free diet, probiotics, and most importantly, reset your hormone.  I'm on Dr Poon's metabolic diet now, only greens & low fat protein for phase one and it's working magic.  I suffered from chronic pain for over 10 years and my cortisol was sky high.  Now it's coming down as I'm on a all natural anti-inflammatory diet, compliant with Dr. Poon's diet.  I don't need any med, nor starve and fat keeps coming off my mid section.

[shipo]

@SunsetRunner, sorry, not buying.  Many folks, myself included, consider Dr. Poon's "medically supervised weight loss" metabolic diet more akin to "medically supervised starvation"; no thanks.

[SunsetRunner]

Are you sure?  IT IS ALL YOU CAN EAT WITH TREATS TOO!!  I never feel hungry.  What clinic did you go to or you do it from his book?  I'm confused!!!  Sorry about this.

[shipo]

Sorry, the Dr. Poon diet is just one of many fad diets, and in the minds of many, myself included, not even one of the better ones.  If it works for you, great, but it is not the be-all to end-all lifestyle diet.

[SunsetRunner]

@shipo No offence.. I don't think we're talking about the same thing.  Dr. Poon doesn't sell any diet.  He's a researcher with MD authorized in Ontario to practise medicines. His practice helps at risk patients reduce body fat and form healthy eating habits.  He cannot accept just any patient.  One needs to be referred to and qualified by having one of the medical conditions he researches into.  I've heard there are MD's out there, who uses his principles but not authorized by OHIP.  They call themselves a "Dr. Poon's Clinic" but it's NOT true.  I'm not even sure if it's legal for them to do so.  That depends on if Dr. Poon has registered his trademark.  His teaching is everywhere as he has a few books out and he teaches at University.  I'm not surprised people say they use his principals.  That doesn't make them MD's authorized by OHIP to practise weight loss clinic based on Dr. Poon's principles.

His headoffice is at Bridgepoint Hospital in Toronto, Ontario.  I have heard of his satellite offices but I don't know where they are.  I go to the Bridgepoint one and every appointment is a medical appointment.

Anyone who understands the medical aspect of his diet knows, because of the pre-existing medical conditions, one cannot eat like the general public does.  One needs to adapt to new way of eating and keep training to increase muscle mass & metabolism.  ALL these are done under medical supervision, not a fad diet at all.

I'm not sure where others get the FAD diet info from but I DO NOT THINK, OHIP would cover the cost of the program, if it's not scientifically proven.  OHIP doesn't even cover diagnostic unless a person's condition is getting worse, needless to say about a Fad Diet.  OHIP budget is managed very tightly.  IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to get authorized unless the science is proven.  This is beyond private insurance's coverage requirement.  Private insurance authorizes any RD but that doesn't make their program. scientifically sound to treat illness.  OHIP covers programs are scientifically proven to treat disease.  If one isn't attending an OHIP covered Dr. Poon's clinic, it's NOT the real deal.

I can pretty much conclude that, we are not talking about the same thing.  Many may have heard of Dr. Poon, but they don't live here nor have medical condition that allows them to attend Dr. Poon's clinic.  That's why they form opinions based on misconceptions.

Hope my understanding of Dr. Poon and how OHIP works, help others take away their misconception.  If my mentioning of Dr. Poon isn't helping others here, I do apologize and will stop this discussion.

[shipo]

I believe my words were "lifestyle diet", by that I mean daily dos and don'ts of eating; not to be confused with a limited term "diet".

[SunsetRunner]

@shipo  Oh.. i'm sorry that I do NOT know what a lifestyle diet is.  I've never tried it.  I ate a balanced diet as a professional model in my past life, calorie counting & exercising daily etc. Once I came down with OA, my doctor sent me to Dr. Poon and it worked.  The explanation is my body's conditions have changed.  I must adapt to new way of thinking.  Dr. Poon is right.  OA is one of the qualifiers, according to OHIP definition.  Dr. Poon isn't a lifestyle diet doctor.  He's a PhD in metabolic study and an MD who practises the principles he has developed.  He treats patients.  That's why it's OHIP covered.

I don't know for sure but I think some people take his books & read his research papers than coin themselves Dr. Poon's diet clinic blah blah blah.. it's ILLEGAL as far as I'm concerned.  There's ONLY ONE Dr. Poon whose headoffice is at Bridgepoint Hospital in downtown Toronto.  All patients are referred by family doctor.  Blood tests and medical history are submitted to him, before acceptance.  Intake is a screening of pre-existing conditions.  ONLY those suffering from the qualified disease, can be treated at his clinic. It can't be a lifestyle thing.  It's definitely a medical appointment.  It's DESIGNED for patients, not regular healthy individuals who wanna lose a few pounds.

We are not talking about the same thing.  I'll let him others are using his name to promote a "Dr. Poon's fad diet".  If they're not authorized by his headoffice at Bridgepoint, nor billed to OHIP, it's not legit.  I've seen on YouTube, a Canadian living in Australia saying that she's on Dr. Poon's diet.  She's got her phases and food lists all confused.  What makes her think she's on Phase one, two or three?  She's completely clueless.  Hahaha...  Her choices of ingredients are not even healthy.  Dr. Poon wouldn't suggest that at all.  LOL... I asked her "are you sure this is Dr. Poon's diet?  Have you been to a doctor to check your medical signs?"  She didn't answer.  I don't know where she got her info from, possibly from a book somewhere, coined as Dr. Poon's diet.  Or she read Dr. Poon's book without truly understanding it and start inventing the wheels on her own.

Like..where's cabbage soup diet from?  From Dr. Cabbage?  LOL.. Hmmm.... I dunno!!!  In fact, I tried it in the past but used it to replace one meal, instead of all three.  It worked.  It's the fibres and broth that filled me up & kept the bowel moving.  That's when I was young and healthy.  Now I need Dr. Poon's help.  The real Dr. Poon himself, that is!  Not the Dr. Cabbage pretending to be Dr. Poon!!!  We need health care as we age, not books and rumours!!! 

I think this is where it's coming from, confusion by the most.  I'll definitely suggest to Dr. Poon himself to look into this as it's a defamation of his character.  He would not leave people with confusion of what to eat, what not to eat.. nor he limits one by reducing caloric intake.  NO COUNTING OF CALORIES!! ALL YOU CAN EAT and some you can eat according to one's medical condition!!!  That's why it's called metabolic diet.  It's designed to boost metabolism and reduce water retention, cholesterol, blood pressure and fat etc.  It's targeting the overall health improvement for the individual.  Anyone says they're practising Dr. Poon's diet, without his authorization nor OHIP coverage, I guarantee you, it's FAKE!!! 

I hope this clarifies it for most but I think this is very very bad.  I really will bring this to his attention in my next week's appointment with him.  He's NOT a lifestyle doctor but a real MD and PhD!!!  Dr. Poon received his PhD from Department of Pathology at the Medical College of Wisconsin in Milwaukee.  He received his MD at University of Toronto.  Anyone else claims to be Dr. Poon's diet affiliate, can't be true unless authorized by him and OHIP!!!!

[shipo]

Sorry, if you take the time to do a little research, you will see there is considerable criticism of his theories from many other medical professionals.  Like I wrote before, if it works for you, great, but his theories do not hold true for everyone.

[JuanJoFitbit]

It's great to read many options and feedback about losing abdominal fat. I think that we all have different complexions and once we find the best system that helps us to lose abdominal fat, we need to stick with it and be consistent, no matter which system works for us.

In my case, I try to avoid carbs, fast food and I do lots of cardio and planks.