EMF Hypersensitivity

[Corney]

"Electromagnetic hypersensitivity is an alleged condition in which people believe that many common health problems are caused by exposure to electromagnetic fields.  The symptoms which may vary considerably from person to person, includes; headaches; fatigue; anxiety; sleep disturbances; palpitations; irregular heart beats; shortness of breath; skin symptoms such as prickling, burning, and rashes; muscle aches and pains and many other ailments.  The alleged sources include power lines, cell phone towers, wifi networks, fluorescent lights, microwaves,mobile phones, chargers, and other electronic devices.  People who claim to be electromagnetically sensitive can cause great emotional and economic harm to their communities."  By Stephen Barrett M.D.  

Electromagnetic hypersensitivity is not recognized by the scientific medical community as a disease.  The World Health Organization has concluded that although the purported symptoms are real there is no scientific evidence of a casual link with EMF exposure.

Both Sweden and the Netherlands have reached similar conclusions.

[Bill_k]

I'll bite.How do these people cause great emotional and economic damage to their communities?

[Corney]

Bill_k: By spreading their unhealthy obsession with EMF's.

[Bill_k]

I believe EMF has an effect on people because after all we are electrical beings . How much is up for discussion. I went on a tour of a magnesium plant one time where they use a process that generates high EMF to make magnesium bricks and anyone with a pacemaker wasn't allowed on the tour and you had to remove electric wristwatches or it would damage them so i can see it would affect brain activity possibly as well.

[suekennedy]

Research the damage 5g is going to inflict on human beings, it's real, and it's an abomination.

[nasacpa]

Perhaps you'd have better luck tilting at the anti vaxxers.  They're causing, and fixing to cause, more damage than your EMF folks.

[suekennedy]

Your'e clearly a well researched and informed individual!  I hope you vaccinate yourself up the wazoo, you deserve it!

[nasacpa]

Yep.  Had all my shots, made sure my kids had all their shots.

[suekennedy]

That's great!  It's called natural selection!

[nasacpa]

Yes, I've helped to insure my kids' survival.

[suekennedy]

Well, I'm happy you will be blissfully ignorant when their health begins to fail, and you become fodder for the pharmaceutical companies, and their shills.  Please don't reply, I'm bored now, and you are too challenged to have an interesting conversation with.

[nasacpa]

Back at ya, Typhoid Sue.

[Cold_Dog]

Since humans have lived for ALL their existence in an EMF world I'm sure we have adjusted to EMF many many years ago.   Remember there is a North and South pole.  We have been surrounded by magnetic waves all our lives.......

[suekennedy]

Never to the level human beings are being exposed to EMF now.  I really do research these types of subjects, in depth, and not using Google either.  There's no point in trying to change some one else's mind if they have a fixed opinion.  My mind is constantly being changed because the more information I have, the more I am persuaded.  I am always open to changing my opinions when the pertinent and believable scientific information is presented.  As the effects of 5g on human beings has not  been adequately investigated, I believe the information I have read, which states it will be hugely detrimental to the human body, specifically at a cellular level.

[Cold_Dog]

The problem is in the modern world we are being 'exposed' to ALL sort of 'stuff'.   It is next to impossible to sort out EMF from other 'stuff' in our world.   The problem is a 'numbers' problem.   

4! = 24 

8! = 40,320

What that math says is if I had 4 different things there is 24 different ways I can arrange them.

If I double that to 8 the permatatures is 40,320 different ways.   

What that means is I have to test ALL the different things in my environment in isolation over the life time of the biology of the animals.  The math again .....  with 4 things that means a human will need 24*80 years or 1920 years to complete the study.   

glen

[Bill_k]

On the bright side i looked into it and the average human life expectancy has increased by about 40% in the last 60 years depending where you live due to various factors so overall we might be nit picking these days.

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@suekennedy  said

"As the effects of 5g on human beings has not  been adequately investigated, I believe the information I have read, which states it will be hugely detrimental to the human body, specifically at a cellular level." 

Since it has not been adequately investigated, the information you have read is speculative: how can they state that it WILL be detrimental. At best, the can say it MIGHT be detrimental. The use of an incorrect and absolute modifier indicates prejudice and arriving at a conclusion without sufficient evidence to support it is not scientific.

[nasacpa]

@suekennedy "As the effects of 5g on human beings has not  been adequately investigated, I believe the information I have read, which states it will be hugely detrimental to the human body, specifically at a cellular level."

You're stating that you believe something which you admit has not been adequately investigated.

And as far as your vax views....the link between vaccinations and public heath has been adequately investigated. The link between vaccinations and autism has been adequately investigated.  But you choose NOT to believe that.

Nice try.

[suekennedy]

Show me the studies that endorse the safety and efficacy of vaccines, and I will show you a unicorn.  You are deluded my friend.  There are no studies, and no evidence the vaccines are efficacious.  There is  however a court set up SPECIally rot pay out to those injure3d by vaccines, and, this court has paid out millions of dollars.  Most people who chose to no longer vaccinate, have had someone injured by vaccines, they didn't start out being against vaccines, quite the contrary.  Research them properly, and then tell me that it is helpful to a small developing child to inject them with aluminium, mercury  and aborted foetal cells.  One doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out the answer.  Man's immune system works perfectly well without interference, infact it has been proven that vaccines weaken people's immune systems

[nasacpa]

That you can't find all the studies that have been done tells me two things.

1.  You don't know how to research.

2.  You've already made up your mind, and no matter what studies I cite, you'll blow them off.

I can tell you that the ORIGINAL study linking autism was shown to be flawed, and caused so much disinformation that the doctor behind it lost his license.  The publishing journal ran a retraction.  There have been numerous studies conducted examining a link between autism and vaccines, and finding no link.  But, I'm sure that that's all down to Big Pharma.

I can tell you that the US now has numerous outbreaks of measles....all thanks to folks like you.