04-09-2014 16:15
04-09-2014 16:15
Hi Everyone!
Protein Shakes seem to be a hot topic. I'm curious as to how others are incorporating them and have a few questions.
- Are the purpose of protein shakes to replace or meal? Be a snack?
- What are some of the benefits?
- Which type of protein powder should I be using if the ultimate goal is weight loss? (I'm also working out 5 days per week)
Thanks in advance for any insight offered!
04-09-2014 18:00
04-09-2014 18:00
If the goal is weight loss and money is no object, you'll want to use a whey isolate because it's lower in calories than the whey protein blends and protein concentrates.
The thing about protein shakes is that there are countless types of protein powders on the market. Some of them (mainly mass gainers) are simply protein powder plus sugar and other additives. There are other types of proteins as well. Hemp, egg, plant based and I don't even know how many others.
CAVEAT EMPTOR! You'll have to educate yourself on protein powders. Your needs may differ from ours - or in this case, mine. I started off knowing that to lose fat, the easiest way I knew to do that was to gain muscle. So, I plotted out my diet at a 1000 calories deficit, but ensuring that I took in at least 125 grams of protein a day (500 calories worth) so what muscles I do have won't wither away, or at least minimize the loss. And, if I eat too much, I'd at least gain some muscle as well as fat. (The only reason to have a cheat day, in my opinion, is to gain some muscle to make that fat loss easier.)
To be specific, I initially used the protein powder as a meal substitute. I was eating oatmeal for breakfast and was tempted by Smoothie King on the way to work. So, I decided to just make my own to save money. I used a scoop of Body Fortress Whey Isolate (130 calories, 30 grams protein, vanilla cream) with 100 calories worth of oatmeal flour. (I put a tub of regular oatmeal in my food processor) I then add 1 tablespoon of ground flaxseed ( about 40 calories), a teaspoon of micronized creatine, 2 ounces of banana (about 50 calories) and 2 ounces of any other fruit, typically raspberries or strawberries (another 30 calories)- with an 8 ounce base of unsweetened almond milk, which is only 30 calories.
I was working out in the evening, a couple of hours after dinner. I'd have a pre-workout smoothie, as well as a post workout smoothie. I'd use different recipes, but finally decided to workout in the mornings so that I wasn't taking in carbs so late at night, right before bed.
Now, I have a smaller size smoothie for my pre-workout - whey, creatine, almond milk, oatmeal and just banana - 310 calories.
Post workout I'd have the first one - about 370-400 calories, depending on which flavor protein and what fruits I'd use. Some days, I'd just have the pre-workout smoothie and just have eggs, canadian bacon and cheese sandwich instead of the post workout smoothie. My theory is that my muscles aren't going to repair all at once. It's a process. The protein from the eggs, meet and cheese are all going to digest at different rates, feeding my muscles as they go. Somedays, I'll just have greek yogurt with fresh fruit and a half ounce of honey (210 calories, roughly) The casein protein will also slowly feed my muscles, while the whey gives them a quick hit.
Some people feel that protein powders are just expensive urine, and that you're better off getting your nutrition through real food. There may be some truth to that. But - protein is still just protein. Whether it's eggs, beans, meat or powder, your body needs a good amount of it. There's no set rule of thumb that has any scientific basis to it that I could find. Some say 1 gram per pound of lean muscle mass. Others use a range of .4 to 1.5 for each pound of lean muscle mass. <shrug> I just went with a formula I found on the internet that pertained to macronutrition and desired body type. (Meso, ecto, endo)
In summary - the best use for protein powder in my opinion, is whatever works best for you. Try it initially as a meal substitute - but only if that meal substitute is fewer calories than the meal you would have had, and it has all the macronutrients you need (fats, carbs and protein)
You'll want to plan your meals out so that those macronutrients also provide you with the micronutrients your body needs. (vitamins and minerals) This way you can assess the total calories you'll consume on the day and see what nutrition needs you'll need to meet with supplements and toss them into your smoothie if need be. (things like carrot, kale, broccoli - they might sound nasty in a smoothie, but if you get a good recipe, they're not too awful.)
04-10-2014 17:15
04-10-2014 17:15
Thank you so much! This is very helpful and gives me a good idea of where to start!
05-06-2014 04:27
05-06-2014 04:27
Protein shakes can be utilized as meal replacements or post workout drinks to help you in your fitness or weight loss. They add protein and good fats that your body needs. Very few options to get that kind of protein quickly. I have been trying to eat 1800 calories to shed weight but about 35-40 percent from protein and fat and then 15-20 percent from carb ( Fruits and veggies). Protein shakes help me keep my calories and numbers up. Syntha-6 from vitamin shoppe is tasty. Energy First dot com has excellent shakes that are made with stevia that are low calorie, depending on your diet. I like both of these because the mix easily with water and easy to travel with.
05-06-2014 04:42
05-06-2014 04:42
Just happened upon this discussion. I appreciate your insight, appears you have done your research, thanks for the info.
05-06-2014 09:33
05-06-2014 09:33
I think it is also important to consider protein shakes vs. meal replacement shakes. The main difference here is whether the powder is mainly protein or whether it contains protein plus all of the essential vitamins and minerals that a complete healthy meal would provide. You can buy post workout protein supplements and even some meal replacements that don't contain all of the major nutrients which can cause deficiencies over a period of time. I love Herbalife shakes because they give me both the protein and nutrients that I need. There is also a "24" line that is geared towards those more workout conscious and these have more of a protein focus.
05-06-2014 12:08
05-06-2014 12:08
I love my Shakeology as a meal replacement, usually for breakfast. It has all the nutrients your body needs plus superfoods to fuel it even further. It's the healthiest meal of the day!
05-07-2014 04:08
05-07-2014 04:08
05-07-2014 04:38
05-07-2014 04:38
If Shakeology scares you expensive wise ($130) if I recall, you can check your local sports nutritionist's store. Many sports nutritionist's stores also offer dietary plans, a discount if you're military or federal contractor or a loyal member who checks in weekly.
I receive my whey protein from a sports nutritionist in the DC area for less than $80 in a massive tub. They also offer suppliments related to weight loss, fat burn, etc.
05-07-2014 07:18
05-07-2014 07:18
You want to make sure it has a complete amino acid profile, contains no artificial stuff or added sugar. I use a raw vegan protein powder. I alternate between Sun Warrior Warrior Blend (natural flavor) and Garden of Life natural. If I want chocolate flavor, I get the Sprout Living Epic Protein Powder, Chocolate Maca. I use in my green smoothies, which is my breakfast. This morning I did 1 c unsweetened vanilla almond milk, 1 (sometimes 2) frozen bananas, 1 scoop protein powder, 3 big handfuls organic baby spinach and 1 c frozen tropical mixed fruit. It is thick, creamy, cold, and very satisfying, lasting until lunch.
05-07-2014 19:48
05-07-2014 19:48
I agree with everyone so far. There are many, over whelming options, when it comes to protein shakes. Finding the right nutritional balance for your goals is one objective, finding a taste that you can "stomach" another, and I also find mix-ability as important. Some individuals like to add almond milks, fruits and veggies, etc... I am a simple person that likes water and portability. I do kettle bells and bikram hot yoga on a regular basis, therefore I am looking for the right nutritional combination that mixes easily and tastes great! I have tried the Garden of Eden, raw and it's a little to grassy for my taste, but still popular. Shaklee, visalis, etc... I have heard great things about too, but I really like how energy first mixes as well as syntha-6. Always willing to try something new! Thanks for all the great insight, suggestions and comments.
05-08-2014 18:37
05-08-2014 18:37
Hi Ecorey23,
Protein shakes should be seen as a snack, not a meal replacement because people should get into the habit of eating healthy nutritious food for breakfast, lunch and dinner. It is not good to subsitute healthy foods with shakes. Shakes will never contain the same amount of fiber and natural nutrients as lean protein and raw vegetables.
That being said, they are a great after workout snack, especially if you are doing resistance training. I see that you workout 5 days a week. How many of those days are weight training?
The benefit of shakes and smoothies is that you make them, so you know exactly what is in them. You can put in what ever you want, you control the portion and you control the nutrients. Here is a link for smoothie recipies.
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/articles/50-smoothies.html
05-11-2014 08:59
05-11-2014 08:59
I use Shaklee 180 shakes in the morning for breakfast. I find these help me get enough protein and fiber in and ae packed with other nutrients, including amino acids. I workout before breakfast and the shake is very statisfying.
05-11-2014 14:32
05-11-2014 14:32
I also love Shakeology as a meal replacement - usually I mix it with almond milk and some ice or frozen fruit for breakfast! Delicious and keeps me full until lunch. The way I justify the cost per month is I factor it into my grocery money for the month, especially since I drink it for breakfast each day.
05-16-2014 11:15 - edited 05-16-2014 11:16
05-16-2014 11:15 - edited 05-16-2014 11:16
I am completely confused by all the different protein shake powders - I've been told that i should get an ISO whey protein powder, but I want one which is low in carbs, calories, fat and sugar (as would be using as snack, not a meal replacement) - does anyone have any recommendations? My current goal is slimming down while toning up. I go to the gym most mornings in which i run on the treadmill and work on improving my strength.
05-16-2014 13:46
05-16-2014 13:46
My home made protein shake IS all healthy food and it is my 300 - 350 calorie breakfast most days.
A natural unsweetened whey protein powder in 8 - 10 oz almond milk with a few handfuls of organic mixed frozen berries and some greens powder (or several kale leaves) and cinnamon powder. Will be occasionally using other fresh fruit as it becomes affordable.
I can take this with me in an empty pint water bottle too for days when I have to leave the house early.
Tastes quite nice - !!
07-07-2014 12:03
07-07-2014 12:03
07-07-2014 12:44 - edited 07-07-2014 12:44
07-07-2014 12:44 - edited 07-07-2014 12:44
Depends on how much you burn, some need an extra meal replacement for sustainability. My diet only accounts for 1200 out of the 2000 of 3000 calories Fitbit recommends. So I need to consume some extra for strength and extra for cardio.