Sleep data with new layout

[Susanhill1910]

I suppose there was an update. The app presents sleep data differently.  Have others noticed this?

I miss seeing how long episodes of awake, light, REM and deep sleep are

Moderator edit: Subject for clarity.

[rcfoulk]

Thanks for the tip, @Gmamas, but this wasn't required before.  The app was "intelligent" enough to do this without prompting.  So, even if it is now possible, it's frankly idiotic to relegate something that was slickly automatic to a manual process.  Again, another giant step backward screwing with monitoring telemetry for no positive purpose.  And to that point, it automatically added nap data to the graphics, so yet another clobbered feature that had at one time not long ago was useful.  And it is monitoring telemetry since I have the v3.9 version operative on my phone and the latest and not-at-all greatest on my iPad.  They both display the same data so it's clear they've altered the monitoring telemetry, it's not just damage they've perpetrated on the UI..

[Counselor123]

I agree with you in sympathize. The issue for naps is not only recording when you took a nap but getting the Sleep data at the same time. For example, did you get into REM sleep or deep sleep during that time, Etc just being able to add the time manually is of questionable value to me

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[Counselor123]

I completely agree with your comment. Although I seem to remember that the older version would not record a shorter sleep such as a nap unless there was at least an hour and a half of time to analyze. I don't know if that's reasonable or not but I suspect that hasn't changed. It certainly makes no sense.

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[rcfoulk]

Maybe I was lucky, but the old way they monitored sleep, again this isn't just the UI, captured naps for me and displayed all the data in the day's sleep graphic.  It's clear from others commenting on faulty sleep recording that they screwed with what's under the hood as well as the UI and apparently whoever did that was pretty clueless about how the system worked.

[Counselor123]

No, I did no screwing up under the hood so it should not be clear to you at all. In my experience with the old version, naps would not be recorded unless it was at least one and a half or two hours long. It was clear that not enough data would be recorded in less time than that and the software clearly stated that.

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[rcfoulk]

Whether it recorded previously or not likely had to do with how they tuned the telemetry, so the results may vary by person.  It would catch naps sometimes for as little as 35 or 40 minutes but not always.  But when I was napping for > than an hour it always caught that as well as providing timing and sleep level detail.  The previous missed nap was for over 90 minutes and today was over two hours.  Nothing.

[rcfoulk]

I was referring to the brain trust at Google concerning screwing with the telemetry under the hood, not that you did something personally.  As I noted, performance in detecting sleep likely varied by person to a degree, but v3.90 before they started screwing with the app and apparently how data metrics are handled the app for me would generally capture a nap and would always capture a nap > 1 hour.

[Gmamas]

With the old app, I clicked on "Begin Sleep" and "I'm Awake." It recorded my sleep and indicated deep sleep, REM, etc. on my naps. It's definitely not as easy now to begin sleep or end sleep for a nap, but it is possible, and the app has a total that includes time for nap plus night time sleep. The graph for naps is flat for each type of sleep instead of having additional information like the night time record.

I've tried two other sleep apps, ShutEye and MyPillow, and neither are as good as the old FitBit app.

Also, I've been getting notifications on FaceBook for the FitBit site. I've commented about the impossibility of telling time with the Inspire (since face is black and numbers are almost black - have to be in the dark to see the numbers) and the horrible changes to the sleep app. If the FaceBook page is being monitored, I'm sure the comment will be removed. But at least I had the opportunity to share my opinion in another location. Hopefully  some people will see it before it's removed.

[TandaK]

Thank you!

[SunsetRunner]

This morning the old layout is back. Fantastic!

[SuzyStepping]

That’s great for you - no change for me sadly ☹️

[SunsetRunner]

Maybe they are rolling it out in sections. Not sure why I have it but I am so grateful! Will pray that you have it soon. Maybe try refreshing or closing the app. 

[rcfoulk]

Having stopped all offshore sales and laid off Fitbit staff including the company founder it's clear there's a clock running on Fitbit under Google, Alphabet or whatever.  The application mods are intended to bring the app look in line with their intent for their Pixel products and the poor attempt to engineer it to work on the FItbit platform is a huge fail both in acceptability of the UI and accuracy how data is now collected and analyzed.  It's equally clear that this update experience has pretty much killed any hope of migrating Fitbit users to one of their health trackers.  Trust abused is very difficult to restore as in any relationship.   So, why not simply reinstate the v3.90 version and the associated logic for collecting and analyzing data?  That would quell the unrelenting anger demonstrated across multiple threads, stop the accumulating mountain of ill will directed at Google, collect money from premium subscriptions, in the event people would sign up again given the trust damage, and sell off your existing Fitbit inventory calling it a day.  Keeping the server infrastructure up for a few more years would likely be covered by sales and subscriptions with Fitbit users walking away happy having the tool they purchased.  You could even have a "Legacy" version in the Play Store, although as state before the old approach to collecting and analyzing data would need to from the v3.90 timeframe.  This is a disaster that's easy to fix.  Keep in mind that pride goes before the fall.  And nobody even needs to apologize.

[MBwalkingMB]

Thank you for posting. The old layout returned to the app on my tablet on Friday and I thought I was crazy. Sadly the new format returned later that day. When the old style showed up it just reminded me how much better, easier to read, and how much data at a glance you could see.

[Irish57]

Is there any news on returning sleep metrics to usable and reliable information?
If Fitbit/Google has responded to concerns I am unaware. As many have stated the change is quite useless!

[AlySlaughter]

Please go back to the old sleep readout. The new one is too difficult to read. It reminds me of Samsung's and that's why I did not go with a Samsung tracker. If I wanted the Samsung look for my sleep I would have bought one of their trackers.

[Byron130]

Why on earth would you create an update that makes it harder to navigate the sleep pattern? It’s all condensed into one page and it’s impossible to read. The design is terrible too, I can’t stand looking at the new page. What a waste of time and money, their designer needs firing.

[Counselor123]

Did you download an update??

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[lacgen]

Unfortunately, I did download the new update (and that’s when the “whole hell
broke loose”)!
I regretted it the moment I saw the “improved” sleep log display.

Luckily, enough for me, I checked on my iPad (which is synchronized with my iPhone) and the update did not take place on my iPad. Whew!

I am leaving it there untouched!

I just have to figure out if there’s a way of copying it over to this previous version to my iPhone…

But for now I am just using my
iPad to see my sleep patterns, nightly and see this awesome weekly display…

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Do you have iPhone or Android?

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Can you post your — this fact one — on the Facebook, please pretty please .

Facebook has much larger audience and this “bad wrap” might concern Google more because of the significantly increased visibility.

You have great points!

[RabDog]

I don’t like that I can’t easily read the time if the sleep event changes.

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Agree!
And in order to vote, they make that difficult also.

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