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Fitbit Update 6/14/19: We have removed the web-based activity groups from Fitbit.com. Our enhanced community features within the Fitbit mobile app provide users with a significantly better experience by allowing them to access fitness-related news and local events, connect and message with friends, discover public groups of like-minded individuals, and create their own private groups.

 

User-created groups on the Fitbit app also allow members to track their progress through group leaderboards and cheer each other on, just as they could through the web. The Fitbit mobile app is available for Android and iOS.


As of 6/13/2019, Web Activity Groups have been deprecated and will no longer be accessible.

 

We know that many of you have used this space to connect with friends and fellow Fitbit users, and we recommend considering the in-app Fitbit Community to continue those conversations. Along with topical public threads where you can discuss personal health goals, the Community also offers closed groups with many advantages - including space for up to 2,000 members, and leaderboard statistics.

 

For more information on joining and inviting your friends to these closed groups, check out this article. We know that this kind of transition can be difficult, but we are confident that you'll find lots to love in the new Fitbit Community!

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Why didn't you migrate our closed group to the Mobile App? Your developers just closed it! Did you give any forewarning that you were going to do this?   

 

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Your group made a lot of people angry!  Bad Customer Service...

 

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Hi everyone - I wanted to again assure you that all your feedback is being heard, and that I'm doing everything I can to make sure we avoid this kind of situation in the future. As I have mentioned, there is no plan at this time to bring back web-based activity groups. I would recommend checking out the in-app community groups (which offer private group options), or the Lifestyle Discussion side of this forum. I know they aren't exactly the same as what you're used to, but they both host great conversations about personal health and support toward your goals. 

 

Here are a few more answers to questions I've seen since I last checked in:

 

Did web-based group membership transfer to the mobile app Community?

We are unable to migrate web activity groups. You can use the in-app Community to create a new group and invite your friends via Fitbit username, Facebook account, or email.

 

How do I search in the mobile app Community?

Tap the Community button at the bottom of the app, then choose "Groups" at the top. Scrolling down, you'll see recommended groups and then "Discover More Groups," which will let you search through all public group categories. Per this suggestion, we are looking into how to expand search functions in the future.

 

How can I track my monthly activity?

You can see the past 1 month of activity in the app by tapping on any stat, then clicking the "maximize" box at top-right. From there, you'll have the option to look at your total for the past week, month, 3 months, or 1 year. @enpiwo - just wanted to make sure you saw this, since you asked.

 

Are these posts being read?

Yes, I am reading every single post and every Private Message sent on this topic. I'm trying to reply to as many of those PMs as I can, but rest assured that everything is incorporated into feedback for the larger team. I know this experience didn't meet your expectations, and I want to improve on that.

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@MatthewFitbit 

 

I know that you are having to repeat the company line. However, the management at Fitbit needs to understand that it comes across as this:

 

"We know what you want and we don't care what you want. You'll take what we are offering and like it, by gosh."

 

That might work with young children, but we are not children. We are responsible adults, able to afford your products, and knowledgeable about what works for us. Your new groups just do not work for us. They aren't communities we chose. There is no way of recreating the groups we were in because Fitbit took away those connections before we could link up through accounts, Facebook, or email. We would probably be able to do okay were we able to recreate those groups, but we cannot because Fitbit took them away. Honestly, if Fitbit turned them on until the end of the month, you might be surprised how many people here would be happier than they are now.

 

I honestly don't want another social site to keep up with. Facebook does that quite well for me. 

 

 

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"I want to improve on that" - this is a statement that requires substantiation. An aspiration without a plan that we can all see is just you - your dev team, PMs and management - blowing smoke. You have, in fact,  taken something away and offered no equivalent replacement - nothing at all, in the view of most people posting here - then asking us to accept that you hope to improve in some undefined way in an undefined time frame.

Do you think we're stupid? Or is it that you just don't care? Do you believe you have some kind of monopoly on the fitness tracker industry that leaves us unable to drop you as a provider?

Tell us, what is the real reason that this was done the way it was done, and quit blowing smoke. 

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I have to agree with stinkfuut...stop blowing smoke up our rears and tell us the real reason this was done.  As he said, do you think we are stupid?  Or do you just not care?

 

I'm seriously not getting another fitbit if these groups are not brought back, and real soon.  And I know a lot of people who are thinking about getting tracking devices but haven't pulled the trigger yet.  You can be assured that I will strongly recommend they do not get a fitbit.  And when it comes Christmas time, I will not be buying any fitbits this year for gifts.

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Ironically, I received this email today from Fitbit: "It's time to upgrade your charge 2. Say hello to Versa and Charge 3."  They are offering me a $50 discount.  Given the fact that my Charge 2's screen has a crack down its full length and given its age, I had been considering replacing it, and under different conditions I might have used today's offer.  However, it's now a certainty that my next device won't be a Fitbit, and that decision is based entirely on the abrupt removal of the community activity groups.  Even if the manufacturer of my next device doesn't offer those groups (though I hope it will), there is a very strong principle here:  I don't trust Fitbit because they don't care about their users.  Their refusal to hear our voices has been stunning, and I don't want to be involved with the company, going forward. 

IT’S TIME TO UPGRADE YOUR CHARGE 2
SAY HELLO TO VERSA & CHARGE 3
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Matthew,

I know the Fitbit users posting here are using the Queen's English, some
rather eloquently, and succinctly.

Yet, you and the Fitbit upper management refuse to hear us.

I'll attempt to simplify it further for you.

You abruptly and without any warning took something of great value from
us, the Web Activity Groups.

You claim that the new mobile apps you have provided is better than what
we had.?? It isn't.

Even if we wanted to, we can't re-create the user experience you took
from us, since you took away the user data, and our ability to re-connect.

Many of our companies and the users in the groups of their making, used
these groups to incentivize.?? Whole programs were built around this tool
that you abruptly took away.

You think you can placate us with nonsense marketing-speak.?? You can't.

There is only one thing we want from Fitbit, and only that one thing
will make us happy again.

Restore the Web Activity Groups!

It's not only the right thing to do, for Fitbit, it's the only thing to do.

There.?? Understand now?

Feed this to the L1's
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@MatthewFitbit 

Do you want to know something? I have remained subscribed to email replies on this thread for one reason only - professional interest. as soon as this change was implemented, as a customer it was the straw that broke the camel's back for me - the final letdown in a series of letdowns that meant I made the decision then and there that I'm on my last Fitbit and I will be moving as soon as this device dies - or possibly sooner, given it's my birthday soon which means I might treat myself to a new device. Anyway.. given I made the decision immediately to move away, I stayed subscribed only out of fascination for how this panned out, because as I said in my first response, thiis is my area. This is what I do for a living. Staying subscribed means I've had probably 500 emails on this subject in the last week or so. Because of course there have been a lot more emails than there are replies on this thread. Because you've been very active in monitoring and zapping any reply you don't like (wonder if this will be one of them?) It was obvious early on that Fitbit was actively monitoring though as there have been at least a couple of post-implementation fixes put in. When this change first went live, we could still see our groups list at the bottom of our main fitbit.com profile page, in the same area as we can now see our friends listed. Hence WendyB's original replies with screenshots apparently showing people how to access their groups. The groups were listed, but when you clicked on them you just got the same generic page not found message. Clearly THIS was a mess-up in the implementation - you'd failed to include in scope the little element of tidy-up that would've had those links to groups removed. So once it was highlighted on this thread, I think it was a few days at most before a fix was released and now those groups aren't showing. 

 

Seems (more positively) you also responded with a better screen than a generic 'you're lost on the trail' (or whatever the 'page not found' message was) - I've seen it mentioned on here but not seen evidence of it myself. 

 

My point is - actively monitoring this thread, and actively taking steps to implement the changes that Fitbit deems necessary.

 

This is now a case study for me in How Not To Do Digital Delivery. I'm not kidding. We've had it as a daily discussion point at work (I work in financial services, not the fitness tracker industry - but digital delivery is digital delivery). The main thing that blows everyone's minds - and remember, this is a team of people who are delivering a digital product, a team just like the teams in Fitbit who deliver this stuff - is that you've done this with no prior warning and no migration facility. You've just removed access to a whole tranche of data customers had access to one day, and now don't. Wholesale. With no warning. People's connections are permanently lost. You (and by 'you' obviously I mean 'Fitbit' rather than you personally) have willingly chosen to permanently destroy a feature thousands of people were using actively and relying on. It beggars belief, it really does. It wasn't that you broke something by accident through oversight (bad enough, but mistakes happen even in the most controlled environments). It wasn't that you did a planned migration, some communication in advance or similar to mitigate the impact on customers of a change you 'needed' to make. You simply chose the 'big bang' implementation approach with no comms, no change management, nothing. The impact you're seeing on this thread, I'm sure you'll agree, was the inevitable and entirely predictable one. You must have known what would happen. I'd absolutely love to be a fly on the wall in the retrospective. Will everyone be congratulating themselves on a job well done? Monitoring usage statistics to see how many people migrate over to the app groups and how many just fall quietly away? trying to learn and do better in future? Somehow, despite what you say, I doubt the latter one because this isn't the first time Fitbit has taken action like this.

 

The other discussion point we've had in work is that we feel Fitbit has chosen to destroy something which is core to its offering. How many people, before they got a Fitbit, saw other people get Fitbits and wondered why they're suddenly going steps crazy, getting up every hour to ensure they get their 250 steps, going out for a walk when it's raining because they haven't hit their 10,000 - or haven't beaten 'Person X' in their group against whom they benchmark themselves. And then the person gets a Fitbit themselves and understands - they're like crack. It's not the physical capability of the device, it's the psychological effect that is motivating. Why is the Fitbit more motivating than a conventional old pedometer? Accuracy, and available data is a nice interface. Those are the differences. Pedometers have been around forever, the difference here is partly the accuracy / niceness of device [build quality aside!] but mainly the data you get out of it. A big chunk of that data for a sizeable population of customers was tied up in the groups, the leaderboards, the competitive/ benchmarking element of it.

 

It's not as if it's some peripheral feature, it's core to the psychological 'stickiness' that has people 'addicted' to their Fitbits and keeps them coming back for more, buying new devices each time, recommending to friends, buying them for gifts, pressuring their companies to set up schemes... 

 

I am freelance so tend to change job roles once a year or so, which means more interviews than most people. I can absolutely 100% guarantee this case study will come up in my next interview of how not to do things.


As a customer I don't think you should have removed the facility at all. As a programme manager, I can understand the combination of strategic goals, cost drivers and technical constraints that might lead you down the path of 'having' to. But you definitely didn't 'have' to do it so badly. Why on earth you didn't just give the admins some warning so they could reestablish a parallel group in the app and at least try and get 'most' people migrated across to the new way of doing things, I'll never know. It's just the kind of short sighted lack of a mitigation strategy to dampen the effects of the degradation of service that was being forced on users, that would make me ashamed to work for such a company. If I was in any way involved in this development it would sure as hell not be something to shout about on my CV!

 

And on another note, your comms needs drafting better. We're not stupid. When you say you 'can't restore the functionality and 'can't' migrate stuff - it's just nonsense. You can. You just choose not to, for financial reasons. Pick your words more carefully - the response to your latest update makes it clear I'm not the only person who sees this!

 

The Product Owner I'm currently working with said to me today - if this was mine I'd be all over it. I wonder where the Product Owner is in this situation... hiding behind the battle lines, not engaging, is what it seems.

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Well said. I'm in the business too, in Cloud services. If we pulled a stunt like this, heads would roll.

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I agree! I want a leaderboard that includes steps, time, and monthly reports. 😞

Sent from my iPhone
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Agreed, we all want a leaderboard that includes steps, time, and monthly reports.

 

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Just so you all know.

 

The name of this company is blocked from entering in text in this forum.

 

Names of competing products are also blocked in text in this forum.

 

Dissent, or harsh complaints regarding the recent action regarding the Activity Groups has been blocked, or if allowed, will be removed.

 

This is the company you keep.

 

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Please clarify, 

"How can I track my monthly activity?

You can see the past 1 month of activity in the app by tapping on any stat, then clicking the "maximize" box at top-right. From there, you'll have the option to look at your total for the past week, month, 3 months, or 1 year.@enpiwo - just wanted to make sure you saw this, since you asked."  @MatthewFitbit 

 

Do you mean that in the Leaderboard (which I was unable to locate within the only App Group that had any appeal to me) of an App's Group we can click the Maximize and we can see everyone's Stats for those periods?  Or just our own?  If just our own, that's immaterial to this issue.  We've lost the Stats for our Groups of Peers.  If FitBit decides we no longer need our own Stats that will likely be catastrophic.  For FitBit.

 

And just for the Record, I do have my Stats (Steps/Distance/Floors and Active Time) public so that's not why I can't locate the Leaderboard within the Senior's App Group.

Saint Helens, Oregon; 5'2", 72, FitBit Charge 2 (Retired FitBit One 13 April 2017)
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@Glencky wrote:

 

And on another note, your comms needs drafting better. We're not stupid. When you say you 'can't restore the functionality and 'can't' migrate stuff - it's just nonsense. You can. You just choose not to, for financial reasons. Pick your words more carefully - the response to your latest update makes it clear I'm not the only person who sees this!

It's always possible that it wasn't a planned move by the company, and they're just trying to get ahead of it. It's more common than not these days that companies are getting hit by nasty ransomware viruses; it's quite possible that some employee opened an email and infected one of their servers. Maybe they didn't have good backups of it, and this is how they save face; "We're shutting it down". This is one of the only ways I could see this colossal of a PR mistake happening. I work for an MSP, so I see this happen quite frequently.

That being said, I started working out again a few months ago and myself and another guy at my work (in our work community group) were going for active minutes. I was killing him this month and he was trying to come back and catch up to me; now that's all gone. We're relegated to a private group where I can't even see the total active minutes at all, and the steps are only for a week. That's pretty useless for a monthly competition.

I liked my fitbit, but it no longer has the functionality I was using it for, the competition. It's probably time I changed it out anyways, I was looking at a Charge 3 a couple of weeks ago. Thank god I didn't buy it.

Signed:

-Another Customer Lost
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@MatthewFitbit 

Yesterday I returned my Fitbit device.  Unceremoniously dropping the Communities that so many of us had come to depend on over the many years I have been a Fitbit user was too much. 

 

Peace out.

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Is there a tutorial somewhere that will teach me how to use the new app?  I want to know if there are leader boards, and can I see my weekly or monthly efforts as compared to the others in a group. I have spent a couple hours trying to find anything on this and am getting very frustrated to the point I am ready to throw my fitit away and buy a garmin.

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@MatthewFitbit, this whole debacle raises an obvious question, I would hope for an honest answer: What is the projected lifetime of the web-based dashboard?

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Bring back the web-based groups.  They were the best thing about having a Fitbit.  Competing against people you didn't know was a great motivation.  What is the point of having a Fitbit now? Bring them back.

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So it is Friday and I finally decided to try one of the new public groups. It does not work for me. Not in any way. It looks like my Facebook feed -- lots of pictures of successes, people doing the social media thing. There is NO leaderboard, so no way for me to compare myself against these peers that Fitbit has decided should hang out together. I don't want to brag about my weight loss to these people. I don't feel enough kinship with to bemoan that I messed up yesterday by eating too much delicious food at a new restaurant. I do that on Facebook with friends I have chosen over the years.

 

So the new "improved" groups are far from improved for me. I don't know 60-100 people who have Fitbits. I have 15 friends who are active on Fitbit. (Yes, my friends tile is still naked on the dashboard and I have to click through to see it. 😞 ) I can compare steps, but not active minutes. With the few friends I have, we found that too often the challenges were disheartening unless we have taken steps to make sure we are more or less evenly matched. Otherwise Tom always won with his zillion steps and Harry always came in last. Tom didn't feel challenged; Harry became discouraged and quit the challenges. So challenges and small groups don't work for me for motivation, unless we are careful.

 

As I see it, the only way to make these groups "improved" is to give us the ability to create public groups or groups anyone can join. Then we could slowly recreate our groups that we had. 

 

Otherwise, if we had the groups turned back on for just a bit, we could create the private groups that Fitbit is pushing out.

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