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Cardio load is nonsense in my opinion

I believe this has replaced the daily readiness, i'm not finding this new feature very intuitive, the goal keeps changing I have no idea how to gauge how much or little exercise is needed, weather a rest day or not basically, the only gist I get is that I need to do some sort of cardio exercise everyday, well I know that, it's good that it can be removed from the home screen.

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Agreed 

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@callcat-how do you even get to a cardio load of 382 to 552??? 3 1/2 hrs with a fair bit of LT1 (z2'ish) gave me 151 cardio - would you need 6-7-8 hrs of z2 or 4hrs of HIIT? what is the highest cardio load people have registered and what did it take?? mine - 3h15m with 3x15m threshold, 220 cardio load

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Just when you thought this couldn't get MORE ridiculous... today, I got the following "target" message:  "You've been improving fitness recently, and your readiness is high.  Aiming for 8-42 cardio load today will keep you on track to improve your cardio fitness."  I'm having a hard time picturing how a cardio load of 8 improves anything!  To re-phrase Base Runner's question:  How do you achieve a cardio load as low as 8 unless you do nothing more than walk to the bathroom and kitchen a few times a day?????  Frankly, even 42 is not that hard for a living, breathing human who may have a dog to walk. I really wish the developers of this utterly inane measurement would read the excellent real-world comments on this thread and work on something that is actually intelligent and not artificial.  Also fervently hope they are "training" some AI system on what are clearly flawed theories. 

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The frustrating thing is that if one takes a rest day, as this seems to indicate, the app will tell us we’re at risk of under-training the next day.  

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Agreed 

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@hovdeo  Yes! This is me too. It’s so annoying! Makes no sense. 

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lol, typical Fitbit 

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Since Fitbit is unable to be sophisticated enough to realize when you're exercising in different ways, it's not sophisticated enough for Cardio Load. Remove it. 

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i tried for quite some time to find some logic and reason to the cardio load, the ranges it suggested as targets, what it could be based on. was it a combination of HRV, RHR, sleep score, CL the previous days, readiness score etc. I never seemed to find any consistency to what it suggested as a range. one day it will tell you aim for 220 - 280 to improve your fitness. when i fail to do so i would just as often get "you are at risk for overtraining" as i were to get "you are maintaining". or if i exceeded the target of x to y, i would just as often "you are risk of undertraning" or maintaining as i were to get "you are at risk of overtraining". 

but, the biggest issue, which goes to the heart of what Fitbit is trying to do with these scores, the unit is just not accurate at all. i can see 20 to 30bpm difference in avg HR between HRM on chest vs the fitbit unit. when the gap is this big, it will severely underestimate the cardio load and everything else that follows. it is sometimes said that write-readers are ok at rest or very light movement but useless at more vigorous efforts. i am not sure i can trust it at lower ranges either, say 40 - 80 - 100bpm. 

only good use for fitbit as i see it now are the alarms (wake-up) and notifications. cardio load, HRV, readiness score etc seem to be junk science right now. and Google a couple of years ago stated that their strategy was to make an inroad into the "health", health monitoring, where they could leverage all the data they collect from fitbit etc but when the baseline data is erroneous, then there is no foundation to build from there. 

I have cancelled my subscription. i will use the fitbit alerts so i wake up at the right time but otherwise - back to my trusted old mechanical Swiss watch now. 

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@ADKzip i will get 150 CL for a hard interval session and then another 120 - 150 CL walking around in the yard, mowing the lawn, weeding, trimming the roses, shuffling some dirt. go figure. 

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Apparently I have to say more than Me Too or I get an error message saying I need more words. Lol

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You need more words and yet Fitbit's (Google's) response to a significant number of complaints is ... silence.

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Yep, yeah, yes, agreed. 😁

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Attempt #2 to speak my mind on this subject... The cardio load feature is poorly designed and downright dangerous. It’s shocking that 1. this was ever rolled out, and 2. given the feedback seen here, hasn’t been nixed. What will it take? I can no longer recommend the product to others. It’s reckless to play the algorithm lottery with our CARDIO health. Careful. 

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Yes. The cardio load seems completely useless. On Thursday my fitbit said I walked over 14,000 steps and burned over 3,000 calories. It said my cardio load for the day was 11. Sometimes it is in the 80's or 90's. The numbers seem completetly random. 

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