Running Pain Inner Ankle's

[HybridHayley]

Hello

I wondered if anyone had or has a similar issue to me. I have been running since January, from barely running 60 seconds I can now run 29 mins covering 4.5km. Its been a hard but awesome journey to get this far even after a months break.

Anyway, 15-20 mins in I start to get a pain which begins around the inner ankles and up my leg.

This image is exactly were it hurts (red bit). The Tibialis Posterior, I sometimes get that extending down my arch to my big toe but this off and one. Mostly its just around my ankle and up. The pain last for a day or so, it's back to normal after a break.

Now I dont know if its my trainers, I have 2 pairs, these: http://www.sportitude.com.au/shop/product/nike-lunar-forever---womens-running-shoes---blackblue

and these (yes I can fit in kids shoes haha) : http://www.johnlewis.com/asics-children's-gt-1000-4-gs-running-shoes/p2481343

Both give me this pain. I decided to go and get a gait analysis (one here in the UK and one in New Zealand) and I had different outcomes. 

My first analysis using a tradition treadmil and filming software told me that I was a neutral runner but I am flat footed. They recommended me a neutral shoe with hard support at the back of the ankle.

My second analysis using a treadmil, pressure tracking and eyes to view my gait told me that I had a high arch (I dont believe this because this was done on a pressure pad and when I stand most of my weight is put on my heel and not enough pressure is put on my foot which is screwing the data. So it looks like the rest of my foot isnt even touching the fall) She also said I have some pronation on my right foot (eye assessment). So I bought the recommended shoes (second pair) here.

To save time and potential injury, I am going to book in to get a biomechanical assessment from an osteopath. Waiting for physio from the NHS will take too long and I feel I will cause some serious damage if I wait and keep running. 

Does anyone else have this issue?

Thanks

Hayley

[in-training]

The pain is in both feet, the left more so.
However, the left foot doesn't pronate it runs 'normal', the right foot
does pronate.
The orthotics i was told were to help the pronation.
Do you have any suggested links/pages for rehab exercise to strengthen the
transverse arch.
I run either on a running track but mainly on pavements or through play
parks.

Thanks for the reply.

[sailorbear510]

Although an interesting read, this would not be considered plantar fachitis would it?

[in-training]

I don't think so or could be a combination of both.
Today I'm struggling to lift my toes up towards my shin, the muscles along
the top outerside of my foot, round my outer ankle and up the outerside of
my shin feelsore/tight. My foot kind of flops/drags when I walk. And there
is a burning pain/tenderness feeling just below my inside ankle bone.
My calfs felt tight this morning but OK once I got moving.
I'm icing and resting as much as possible, and have put my running
orthotics in my regular shoes for support. Once the pain has gone I will
start strengthening exercises.
I don't think I'll be back running for several months. So frustrated.

[Corney]

sailorbear510: No Plantar fasciitis symptoms include significant enough to
pain in the center of the heel first thing in the morning and after long
periods of non weight bearing to cause you to limp. After up to 5 minutes
of walking the pain goes away. I never experienced pain during my morning
runs, but had pain first thing in the morning after getting up and pain
after driving to work. After purchasing OTC orthotics I continued to walk
and run pain free for over 10 years.

[sailorbear510]

Can you send me a message of what you bought take away the pain? I know it will not help my situation but I am interested to hear more.

[Corney]

sailorbear510: Spenco Rx 3/4 length arch support. My foot size is an 8
and the arch support is a number 3. I still use them in all my shoes.
Good luck!

[sailorbear510]

Okay I thought you were going to send me a private message but I can see it here too no worries. This is good information to have as my doctor has talked to me about those things. Hoping there is relief somewhere out there. Thanks again!

[Corney]

sailorbear510: The foot has 2 arches both formed both the boney structures
from the Calcaneus and Cuboid from the rear stretching forward to the base
of the metatarsals. The bones are held together by very strong ligaments.
The Plantar fascia is thought as the tie rod of the longitudinal arch. If
the foot becomes weakened creating a fallen arch nothing can be done to
strengthen it since ligaments once they become stretched do not tighten.
Muscles can not support the foot once the ligaments can't. Pronation is
normal in everyone's gait except for those with a high arch or rigid foot.
Pronation occurs right after heel strike as the foot roles medially getting
ready for toe off. The best method for determining gait mechanics during
running is looking at the wear pattern of your running shoes after several
months of running. Heel strike should occur slightly lateral to the center
of the heel. Hyper Pronation occurs if the heel strike occurs medial to
the center of the heel or along the lateral edge of the shoe. You should
compare the wear pattern of both shoes. Next, place both shoes on a flat
surface and look at them from the rear. If the backs of the shoes are
moving or collapsing inward then you are hyper Pronating. Pain on the
bottom of the foot in the morning or after sitting for an extended time are
indication of Plantar Fasciitis, pain along the medial ankle in the
Tibialis Posterior Tendon suggets the muscle is trying to support the arch
with resulting tendonitis. Suggestions: OTC orthotics and buy shoes with a
firm heel counter to help give rear foot stability. Good luck!