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Doctor wants me to start strength training- not sure where to start and I HATE it.

My doctor wants me to try strength training for weight loss. The only thing worse that being hungry 100% of the time is strength training. I would rather run miles before strength training.  Not to mention time restriction, since I don't get to do the activities I want to.

 

Where do I even start with resistance/strength training? Especially since its already the most miserable activity in the world in existence (for me, personally).

 

 

I have been over weight all my life, at least since i can remember, so probably 4. Even as a kid, I practically was only aloud to eat fruits and vegetables and still gained weight like crazy. I show no signs of a metabolism problem, and I'm already fairly active. I just can't lose weight. Ever, at all. I eat less than most people and still gain weight like crazy. I just feel like my doctor just brushed it off like I'm a lazy fat person. I just don't get it.

 

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@Lyxi I'm excited you found something that might fit for you, keep us posted. I'd love to hear more as you continue your journey to a healthier you 🙂

 

Wishing you the best!  

 

Cheers!

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I will for sure! Ill have to wait a week or so cause I just got a tattoo on my shoulder I don't want to mess up, but I will eventually remember to post something. In the very least, I hope strength training will keep my bones strong and healthy, even if I don't loose any weight in the end.

 

I'm hoping eventually I can find something even more fun, like a team sport, that's not too competitive. having feet that turn inward and a messed up hips make that interesting, so I'll have to find people who won't mind my lack of coordination. Lol

I'm trying to save up to afford a personal trainer, but its hard straight out of college. Hopefully I do something right. 

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@Lyxi: your doc is likely well-meaning, but clearly lacks empathy and communication skills. I’m aware of another doc that prescribes weight training to his patients: Dr. Scott Nadolsky, who describes himself as "The Doc Who Lifts". He’s a family and obesity medicine physician, but much better at encouraging and motivating his patients. His blog makes good reading IMO (more on that below).

 

You have received a lot of good advice from other community members, and I agree that: 1) you should definitely pick up activities you enjoy doing and 2) the key to successful weight loss is diet, not exercising.

 

Since you mentioned cancer is one of the diseases that run in your family, you may want to have a look at this other topic on diet, nutrition, physical activity and cancer. It’s about a report recently published by the World Cancer Research Fund and the American Institute for Cancer Research. They make 10 recommendations for preventing cancer. Five of them relate to eating and drinking, and they provide a good frame for improving your diet:

 

  • Eat a diet rich in wholegrains, vegetables, fruit and beans
  • Limit consumption of "fast foods" and other processed foods high in fat, starches or sugars
  • Limit consumption of red and processed meat
  • Limit consumption of sugar sweetened drinks
  • Limit alcohol consumption

You have already covered several of these, so you’re on the right track. Note that these recommendations are perfectly attainable: they don’t say "eliminate this entire food group" or "avoid entirely this type of foods" (like some of the more "extreme" diets you may encounter), but rather limit stuff that we know is not optimal for your health. It’s very hard to change everything at once, but much easier to make incremental changes that over time will translate into better habits and a healthier lifestyle.

 

You mentioned that "things that add bulk" (these would be from the first recommendation) "often make you gag" and "you can barely get them down". I think you need to accept whole foods don’t taste as good as ultra-palatable processed foods (blog post about this from Dr. Spencer). You can educate your palate to tolerate a lot of the foods that you know would be good for you, but currently taste or feel gross. You can also experiment with various foods and ways to prepare them until you find ones that are bearable. For instance, I don’t particularly like cauliflower, but I find it very easy to eat it as cauliflower rice (especially spiced with cumin), as it changes both its texture and its taste. I don’t really like broccoli, but spinach, zucchini and green beans are OK. I still think pizza is much tastier, but I eat the damn veggies everyday, because I understand they’re more aligned with my overall health and fitness goals.

 

You didn’t say anything about alcohol. I’ve never been much of a drinker myself (I drink an average of two glasses of red wine per month), but for some people there lies a big potential for improvement. @Baltoscott called it "low-hanging fruits" for him (he developed interesting strategies to curb his consumption).

 

You said "you have been overweight all your life". On a positive note, you appear to be still very young. If you read more about the first recommendation (maintain a healthy weight), the report adds throughout adult life. For older folks like me, getting into the healthy weight range at a later stage in life is better than staying overweight, but not optimal. As a young person, you have the potential to make changes that will have a much bigger impact on your health, longevity etc.

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The reason I didn't respond to alcohol is because I don't drink, if I do it'd very rare. 1-2 drinks is enough for me, so I don't think I over indulge in that area. I don't even really average more than 2 drinks per month cause I don't drink every month. I live with someone who doesn't drink, and its kinda boring to drink alone, so I don't.

 

I am attempting to change my diet. It is frustrating though. I've always ate less than most people yet always seem to be large. A normal and typical diet that helps normal people loose weight doesn't work on me for some reason. I have to have larger calorie deficits than most people just to maintain, let alone loose.

 

And lol about the realizing healthy food isn't going to taste as good as junk food. I realize that, I'm not completely stupid. But I threw up eating my lunch the other day, and honestly there are some things you can not force down. I can't even prepare foods like cauliflower and broccoli without gagging (the smell is horrendous!!). I get you can learn to like things, and i actually have done that, but there's a limit people who like thoes foods dont always get. I'm still trying to eat more healthy things, and I'm eating the healthy things I can stomach, but I'm not going to make myself sick over it. I'm pretty sure getting sick is not healthy.

 

Once U've spend as much time depressed in your life as I have, you would much rather be happy and only live another hour, than be miserable for another 100 years. I can eat foods that are just okay or tolerable, but when I'm making myself sick trying to eat them, it's not worth it anymore for me. I feel like I'm really only loosing weight for other people, so I don't need it to be more miserable than it already is.

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Doctors diagnose, nurses administer meds/supps and care givers observe and report and due to the low level dirty stuff.  That's pretty much most of how the health system operates throughout the world.  There may be some exceptions.  Your doctor diagnosed you have a certain obesity problem and then recommends like most other doctors will do, strength training.  Because that will help you build muscles, raise your metabolism and help with your obesity problem.

 

Having said that, most of the western world had been fed food that are rich in sugar and saturated fats.  Even so claimed health foods are not at all healthy!  The human body is not designed to process more than 15grams per day of sugars.  A can of Pepsi or Dr Pepper has like 43 grams of sugar, eventhough per can serving, it has 110 calories!  Just 1 can of that stuff shoots your insulin up the roof.  I cringed when I see a woman hauling a bunch of 2L of Coca Colas off the supermarket and she's obese!  Which is why the majority of people in the Western world are suffering from insulin resistance and are suffering later on in life with Type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular diseases and recently Alzheimer's disease!  Not good.

Also our other foods are also laced with tons of sugars like sweet cereals (even the so claimed healthy ones are laced with sugars), sweetened yogurts and even those store bought healthy bread!  So when you eat foods with a high glycemic index, not just sugars but also starchy foods like white bread, white rice, white potatoes and baked goods, your body pours out large amounts of insulin in an attempt to keep the glucose levels in check, because glucose itself is toxic at high levels.  That harms your cells in several ways.  For one thing, the cells become insensitive to the constant flood of insulin just as commuters are insensitive to blaring cars, profanity exchange between drivers etc..  When something happens, you just stop responding to it.

Sugar is like a drug and like a drug addict, you always want more of it.  Your taste bud expects sugary stuff.  This is the same with saturated fats, which makes the food taste good.  So it is very difficult to go cold turkey for any drug addict; getting off the sugary train diet.  And most of us had been fed this stuff since we were a little child.  Going healthy and going without sugar is NOT easy.  I think too many people focused on the Calorie In and Calorie Out, but neglect the fact that we truly don't really know how much sugars we consume even if we are eating healthy because most of the stuff we buy and cook come from the supermarket.

 

Having said that.  Fat loss is more about diet than exercise.  I think about 80% diet and most of it is our misunderstanding about calories.

With all the craze with people drinking Coconut water, let's examine 2 cans of Coconut water I have here.  The healthy brand has just 80 calories @ 520ml but with 17grams of sugar.  The not so well known brand that seemed to sit in my supermarket longer has 60 calories @ 310ml but with only 5 grams of sugar.  The 2 tastes different and at least for me, one tastes way way too sweet and the 5 grams one taste just right.  Even the so called fresh frozen ones have like 20grams of sugar!!

So the take home point is simply; don't focus on just calories.

 

When I started weening off those sugary stuff and starchy foods, I don't just go cold turkey.  I go through a systemic withdrawal, like a drug addict does.  Replace 1 meal slowly with a balanced diet of protein and high fibre, grains, fresh fruits and vegetables.  The higher you are insulin resistant, the slower you need to replace your meal.  Otherwise, your body will just reject them.

 

Secondly, as much as a diet plan does to reduce weight, you also need to work on yourself, your inner-self and what makes you unhappy, lack of peace and harmony and feeling "powerless" about yourself.  In my experience, I had to heal myself feeling "powerless" that I couldn't do what I could do; always afraid of being judged and be rejected and that is a formula for addiction, because what a controlled substance does, like sugar and fat, is to give you a temporary high, so you thought the problem went away.  But it didn't.  Then you need more high, then more high, then even more high.  That's typical from any addict.  Right now in health care, I work with a lot of addicts of all kinds; addiction to body image, sex, wealth, performance etc..  You name I see it.  And they have psychological issues feeling powerless about themselves that they couldn't do anything about it. 

 

Powerless is a temporary illusion, because you can do something about it.  It is being yourself, the authentic self.  Everyone else who judges you also feel powerless about themselves and their situations.  They need to put others down, so they can get the high, the feeling good they are not powerless.  But that is also a temporary feeling, for then they have to continue putting and judging other people to make themselves feel good to get the next high, then the next high so forth.  They are also addicts of a psychological kind.

 

I hope this helps you..

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@Lyxi wrote:

I've always ate less than most people yet always seem to be large.


Actually, it’s very hard to know how much other people really eat, even when you live under the same roof as them (because you’re not behind their back 24/7). A thin friend of yours may seem to eat twice as much as you when you eat out together, but do you always know what they’re doing during the rest of the day? Anyway, it doesn’t (or shouldn’t) matter what other people are eating, we have to play with the cards we were dealt.

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@Dominique wrote:

@Lyxi wrote:

I've always ate less than most people yet always seem to be large.


Actually, it’s very hard to know how much other people really eat, even when you live under the same roof as them (because you’re not behind their back 24/7). A thin friend of yours may seem to eat twice as much as you when you eat out together, but do you always know what they’re doing during the rest of the day? Anyway, it doesn’t (or shouldn’t) matter what other people are eating, we have to play with the cards we were dealt.


 

I have lived with other people (I just graduated college, I'm still young and broke) and gone to school with people who really can eat more than 1400 or 1600 calories and lose weight.

 

I typically don't eat for pleasure (unless its popcorn. I very much like popcorn but don't eat it often). Eating is an inconvenience in my day. Not something I enjoy and takes up time I can be getting things done or doing something I do enjoy. It's a means to stop hunger, so I can focus on my day.

 

My point is that while everyone says its so easy and you can diet AND not be hungry, that is not a possibility for me because to loose weight I have to eat so little food. I have basically lived off celery the past week or so because its the lowest calorie thing I like. I used to like it a lot until I started eating it plain 2-3 times a day. Its getting kind of old.

 

I think what I am trying to get at is that my issue is that I have to eat so little to diet. Many people like to act like it is not as hard as it is for me. Yes, I recognize that many people dieting find it challenging. However, I'm sure when they diet they are not constantly having hunger pains or feeling hungry 24/7 and are only sleeping 3-4 hours a night because they are so hungry they can't sleep.

 

I realize this is what I have to work with, but what I have to work with puts me in daily discomfort and misery beyond what everyone else has to deal with is not fun. If I follow the 1200 calorie rule like I am supposed to everyday, it makes it impossible for me to simply think and life my life. And at 1200 calories, I am practically maintaining, not losing anything.

 

I am not a doctor, but I'm pretty sure 1400 calories to maintain is not normal at my height and size. That's usually 1000 calorie deficit even if I don't get a workout in and just have a normal day.

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@bikerhiker

I appreciate you pointing out the whole sugar thing to me. It's something I try to pointing out to doctors. I cut soda a couple years ago. I really can't have sugary drinks like gatorade and stuff, because I cut out dyes due to something completely unrelated to my weight, and now I like have a sensitivity to them. I do like juice, but the only juice I drink is a low-cal lightly sweetened lemonade sweetened with that like stevia stuff (i know its all natural, so I am allowed to have it). I don't drink it every day though, its a once in a while thing. I like lemon.

 

I am not sure I completely understand where you were going with the rest of your post.

I make an effort to not judge other people and I don't really care about how I look. Like don't judge when people buy soda or drinks with dyes though, no matter their size. It may not be for them or they could be having a party. But its not my place to judge, no matter what they look like. Its them living their life how they want.

 

And I don't really get the whole "getting high on food" thing. Other than the occasional fruit pop sickle (cant have normal pop sickles) or popcorn (because popcorn is my favorite), eating is more of an inconvenience than anything. If I could just not be hungry, that would save an enormous amount of time and money in my life. I would total be okay with photosynthesis. However, eating something I have to do in order to function, concentrate, and not be in discomfort/pain.

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My point is that while everyone says its so easy and you can diet AND not be hungry, that is not a possibility for me because to loose weight I have to eat so little food. I have basically lived off celery the past week or so because its the lowest calorie thing I like. I used to like it a lot until I started eating it plain 2-3 times a day. Its getting kind of old.

 


 I can see why "dieting" would be something awful for you. This is not something I would be willing to do either...Losing weight is far from easy for anyone. Losing weight takes commitment and diligence, both are hard things no matter who you are. There are no easy weight loss strategies. Having said that, you do not need to starve yourself or only eat celery to lose weight, that would suck big time!

 

I have a feeling that those people who says it's easy have found a way to lose weight that they can live with. You have to find what works for you and something you can live with long term, and what works for you might be different that what works for me or someone else. I'm cutting 1000 calories a day...it's hard, I'm hungry, sometimes really hungry, some days I am less hungry and it does not seem so hard. I have found that for my body, eating lots and I mean lots (huge plates full) of veggies (4-8 cups a day) and small amounts of grains (1/2 - 1 cup a day) and fruits to snack on...lots of fruits. I eat 1-3 cups of berries a day...I eat lots of food, but they are low calories foods, and I love them...and that's the trick...I love to eat this way, I like the way my body feels, I can't quite do as much exercise as I want, but I know when I am done cutting calories, and doing maintenance, i'll have more energy for hardcore workouts...

 

Try different ways of eating...have you tried high fat? I tried high fat and I found I was never hungry, but I was a bit concerned about the long term effects of high fat, so I now eat less fat, by no means low fat, but medium fat 🙂 Carbs are my highest macro because I eat tons of fruits and veggies and I tend to be a bit more hungry than when I was eating high fat, low carb.

 

Don't get discouraged, keep trying things, keep monitoring your weight, how you feel, and eventually something will click for you and you will know it's right for your body and your preferences.

 

Wishing you the best!

 

Cheers!

 

 

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@Lyxi -- There is definitely a bell curve of sorts with respect to metabolism, and to some extent you play the cards you are dealt, but if you've been eating at 1200/day for a while (or even 1400-1600) and are still overweight, your body and metabolism have simply adapted to that amount of calories.  I don't know if "starvation mode" is the right term, but lots of lifetime dieters wind up where you are now.  Even if they exercise, their bodies adapt and use less energy throughout the rest of the day.  It is fixable, but the answer is not intuitive because you have to eat more, not less, and at the beginning that means you'll gain weight.  Try maybe 2000 - 2400 calories/day for a month or so, depending on how much you exercise.  Although your weight will likely go up a few pounds, in a few weeks it stabilize again, and after a month or two at a higher calorie level then you can start cutting back maybe 10% or so of your calories and actually lose weight.  This is a pretty good explanation for why your metabolism sucks, but there are many more on YouTube. 

 

In the meantime, besides popcorn, celery, and diet-lemonade, what are you eating now?  As you increase calories add back some unprocessed whole foods you do like, and try some new to you veggies.  Do you like eggs? Eat a couple of eggs and throw in some chopped onions, peppers, and spinach in the pan.  Oatmeal?  Check out all the ideas on this 18 month long thread.  Add salmon or grilled chicken to a salad lunch.  Plain whole milk yogurt or kefir is AWESOME when you mix in frozen berries!  (Just avoid the processed yogurt + fruit ... too much sugar and not as filling when the fat is stripped out). If you want carbs go try whole grains -- rice, oats, etc., baked sweet potatoes or white potatoes.  When you eat out go to Whole foods or similar and put together something from the salad bar instead grabbing whatever you eat now even though it might seem quicker.  If you wind up liking any of it learn how to make it so you can save money going forward.  

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@bikerhiker

I appreciate you pointing out the whole sugar thing to me. It's something I try to pointing out to doctors. I cut soda a couple years ago. I really can't have sugary drinks like gatorade and stuff, because I cut out dyes due to something completely unrelated to my weight, and now I like have a sensitivity to them. I do like juice, but the only juice I drink is a low-cal lightly sweetened lemonade sweetened with that like stevia stuff (i know its all natural, so I am allowed to have it). I don't drink it every day though, its a once in a while thing. I like lemon.

 

I am not sure I completely understand where you were going with the rest of your post.

I make an effort to not judge other people and I don't really care about how I look. Like don't judge when people buy soda or drinks with dyes though, no matter their size. It may not be for them or they could be having a party. But its not my place to judge, no matter what they look like. Its them living their life how they want.

 

And I don't really get the whole "getting high on food" thing. Other than the occasional fruit pop sickle (cant have normal pop sickles) or popcorn (because popcorn is my favorite), eating is more of an inconvenience than anything. If I could just not be hungry, that would save an enormous amount of time and money in my life. I would total be okay with photosynthesis. However, eating something I have to do in order to function, concentrate, and not be in discomfort/pain.


Hi there,

 

Doctors are pretty concise when it comes to addressing obesity with clients, so I think your doctors probably had you done some tests, like they should know your glucose and insulin levels to rule out refined sugar in your diet.  If I get this right from you, then perhaps the reason why your doctors aren't listening to you when you try to explain to them was because, your glucose and insulin levels are medically normal to them and perhaps also, they are trying to get through you what they think might be the cause of your obesity or not off and what the remedy might be.

Secondly, if your doctor wants you to start strength training, that means your doctor thinks you have the energy level and stamina to do it.  Otherwise why would he even recommend it to you when your doctor knows that you might not even make it and collapse if you don't have the energy for it.  That's a liability issue.  When I was teaching fitness at the time, I always demand a doctor's letter to prove to me that the client is fit for my exercise class.  My liability insurance states that if anyone collapsed on me while I train the person without proof of a doctor's note, then I'm liable.

 

That's why I talked about the psychological high expectation of wanting to loose weight, while starving yourself.  Could it be that this is a genetic precondition and a hereditary condition in your family that you may have a difficult time accepting or you have stress in your daily life that is affecting your sleep, which is also a contributing factor to maintaining weight.  These are psychological issues that no diet plan can solve.

 

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I have a feeling that those people who says it's easy have found a way to lose weight that they can live with. You have to find what works for you and something you can live with long term, and what works for you might be different that what works for me or someone else. I'm cutting 1000 calories a day...it's hard, I'm hungry, sometimes really hungry, some days I am less hungry and it does not seem so hard. I have found that for my body, eating lots and I mean lots (huge plates full) of veggies (4-8 cups a day) and small amounts of grains (1/2 - 1 cup a day) and fruits to snack on...lots of fruits. I eat 1-3 cups of berries a day...I eat lots of food, but they are low calories foods, and I love them...and that's the trick...I love to eat this way, I like the way my body feels, I can't quite do as much exercise as I want, but I know when I am done cutting calories, and doing maintenance, i'll have more energy for hardcore workouts...

Try different ways of eating...have you tried high fat? I tried high fat and I found I was never hungry, but I was a bit concerned about the long term effects of high fat, so I now eat less fat, by no means low fat, but medium fat 🙂 Carbs are my highest macro because I eat tons of fruits and veggies and I tend to be a bit more hungry than when I was eating high fat, low carb.

 

I have never tried high fat. I was told to go high protein-low carb/fat, so although I have been eating fruit, I felt like I shouldn't. I feel like fruit is a little high in calories for something that doesn't keep me full and makes my diet to carb heavy. (Although I like bread, so I'm pretty sure I have been failing).

 

Does high fat have any risk? I worry that I would gain weight with a diet high in fats. Do you need like a doctors supervision doing something like that?

 

How do you stay happy while your hungry? Are you able to work like you normally do? I feel like my brain stops working when I'm hungry and can concentrate or do anything. I loose a lot of energy and feel less motivated as well. How do you get past that?


 

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Try maybe 2000 - 2400 calories/day for a month or so, depending on how much you exercise.  Although your weight will likely go up a few pounds, in a few weeks it stabilize again, and after a month or two at a higher calorie level then you can start cutting back maybe 10% or so of your calories and actually lose weight.  This is a pretty good explanation for why your metabolism sucks, but there are many more on YouTube. 

 

In the meantime, besides popcorn, celery, and diet-lemonade, what are you eating now?  As you increase calories add back some unprocessed whole foods you do like, and try some new to you veggies.  Do you like eggs? Eat a couple of eggs and throw in some chopped onions, peppers, and spinach in the pan.  Oatmeal?  Check out all the ideas on this 18 month long thread


I have heard of that kind of thing. It's something my biochem instructor used to talk about (but I sucked at chemistry). A student asked about restarting metabolisms once when talking about fasting/cleanses, as well as increasing calories to boost metabolism. Is this safe to do without a doctors guidance. This one worries me, because every time I stop focusing on watching what I eat or increase my calorie intake I gain weight really easily, then can't loose it. I worry it will be like Holiday calories--the ones that you never get rid of or that want to stick around. It would be something that would make me nervous.

 

The best way to describe what I like is to think of a 5-10 year old. I love fruit, like watermelon, strawberries, grapes, blueberries, blackberries, etc. I'm that person who will eat the orange and green things in a fruit salad no one else will eat. I like bread and bread-like things. Its one of my favorite things. I like salads and a few veggies. Really basic ones like green beans, raw carrots, raw spinach, and a few other. I like turkey sandwiches, but I know processed meats and bread are bad, so I only eat half of a sandwich and only use the light bread thats half the calories per slice. I like eggs, but plain. I don't like my food to mix or touch. I like some things mixed together (berries in greek yogurt), but beyond a few things I like to separate everything. Like mixed vegetables (while I'll eat them steamed) make me angry. Again, like a five year old.

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@Lyxi wrote:


I like bread and bread-like things. Its one of my favorite things.

This is where I would start from, especially if your breads and "bread-like things" (can you expand on what they include?) are made from refined wheat. Here in Northern Europe we eat a lot of rye bread:

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It’s not crusty on the outside and soft inside like a French baguette, but it’s definitely possible to acquire a taste for it. It has a lot of fiber and does a much better job at keeping you full. I’m not anti-carb/anti-grain, in fact quite the opposite, but you should definitely consider substitutions towards whole grain products and non-grain carbs. 

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I have never tried high fat. I was told to go high protein-low carb/fat, so although I have been eating fruit, I felt like I shouldn't. I feel like fruit is a little high in calories for something that doesn't keep me full and makes my diet to carb heavy. (Although I like bread, so I'm pretty sure I have been failing).

 

Does high fat have any risk? I worry that I would gain weight with a diet high in fats. Do you need like a doctors supervision doing something like that?

 

How do you stay happy while your hungry? Are you able to work like you normally do? I feel like my brain stops working when I'm hungry and can concentrate or do anything. I loose a lot of energy and feel less motivated as well. How do you get past that?


 


High protein/low fat and carb is how I lost 70 lbs 13 years ago right after I quit smoking and it worked. I lived on chicken, fish, a ton of veggies, 1 piece of dark chocolate a day and fruit for snacks. I have personally tried and tested this macro distribution and it worked, but I did not stick to it long term...so I regained some of that weight (40 lbs) which I am now losing again. 

 

I tried high fat a few months ago because I had never eaten that way guilt free...I ate coconut oil, olive oil, avocados, cashews or almonds at every meal, and full fat dairy, yogurt. and cream, my food tasted absolutely amazing and it was a joy to eat. I lost 5" around my waist but not a single lbs, actually I put on a few lbs. I was not worried about it though, because my waist measurement had gone down...your waist measurement are a good indicator of health and I fell great!!

 

I am not convinced that eating high fat is healthy in the long term, so even though I really enjoyed this way of eating I switched back to my higher protein and lower fat diet of before. I do need to find the balance though, because this is definitely not just a phase but a way of life, I am going to have to monitor my weight forever...I might switch back to higher fat during maintenance, which is I am still trying to figure out...we are continually evaluation and adjusting things in life.

 

I think if you stick to higher fat whole foods, this might be a healthy way to eat, like nuts, avocados, olive and coconut oils. I still eat these on my higher burn days. I just can't seem to fit it in on my lower burn days, not enough calories in my day. I would talk to your doctor if you have concerns for sure.

 

What I do about hunger is and this is probably gonna sound weird but I've always done this and it helps me get through tough workouts too is that when I feel the hunger I picture my body (the inside of my body) burning the fat that it has stored up...I actually picture it and this makes me happy 🙂 It probably sounds really silly, but I find it really works for me. I have been running for many years (decades), and when I was losing weight previously I actually chanted to myself as my runs got tougher... "I am melting fat" and I literally felt like the fat was melting off my body...and it did...I lost about 70 lbs in about 6 months.

 

I will also drink tea or water when I feel hungry...It does not always stop the hunger, but then I just picture the fat melting, and I'm fine with being hungry :)...sometime I will eat over my daily calories if the hunger gets too strong. I tend to listen to my body, for me it's a strong message that my body needs calories, and I need calories to run, so I'll grab fruit or nuts, or a protein bar, and the strong hunger passes and I have energy for my next walk/run.

 

Being hungry is just a side effect to losing weight for me, it's not permanent and I will never have to be hungry again when I get down to my goal weight and maintain...that's also another motivating factor for me. Hunger is the price I have to pay for over indulging 🙂 A price I am willing to pay.

 

I have also personally found that to lose weight I have to track everything I eat...I have not been successful at losing weight by just going by my hunger. So I track everything now and it seems to be working...again. 🙂 for the last time. This time as I left the 190's and 180's I said goodbye, we will never meet again...I will never again see those numbers on the scale...ever...I'm a pretty determined person when I set my mind to something. 

 

Wishing you the very best!

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Try maybe 2000 - 2400 calories/day for a month or so, depending on how much you exercise.  Although your weight will likely go up a few pounds, in a few weeks it stabilize again, and after a month or two at a higher calorie level then you can start cutting back maybe 10% or so of your calories and actually lose weight.  This is a pretty good explanation for why your metabolism sucks, but there are many more on YouTube. 

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I have heard of that kind of thing. It's something my biochem instructor used to talk about (but I sucked at chemistry). A student asked about restarting metabolisms once when talking about fasting/cleanses, as well as increasing calories to boost metabolism. Is this safe to do without a doctors guidance. This one worries me, because every time I stop focusing on watching what I eat or increase my calorie intake I gain weight really easily, then can't loose it. I worry it will be like Holiday calories--the ones that you never get rid of or that want to stick around. It would be something that would make me nervous.

 

The best way to describe what I like is to think of a 5-10 year old. I love fruit, like watermelon, strawberries, grapes, blueberries, blackberries, etc. I'm that person who will eat the orange and green things in a fruit salad no one else will eat. I like bread and bread-like things. Its one of my favorite things. I like salads and a few veggies. Really basic ones like green beans, raw carrots, raw spinach, and a few other. I like turkey sandwiches, but I know processed meats and bread are bad, so I only eat half of a sandwich and only use the light bread thats half the calories per slice. I like eggs, but plain. I don't like my food to mix or touch. I like some things mixed together (berries in greek yogurt), but beyond a few things I like to separate everything. Like mixed vegetables (while I'll eat them steamed) make me angry. Again, like a five year old.


If you are thinking doctor supervision along the lines of what you got from the doctor who caused you to start this thread, "Go lift weights ... now stop bothering me."  Well ... meh.  

 

I do think you'll gain some weight for a week or two if you increase your calories, but think it will stop and stabilize after that, and your body will settle at a slightly higher weight.  It is an experiment that you can reverse in a couple of months if you don't think it is working.  But you do need to give a few months to work.  And I'm not suggesting you mimic what happens between Thanksgiving and Christmas.  The problem for most people in that situation is that they get so far away from their normal eating patterns that they lose focus altogether, pledge to fix it in January, and then have more bites of this and that at various parties and social events so that by the next day they don't know if they ate 3000 calories or 6000.  Lets face it, even if you haven't done it yourself, you've seen people put down close to 10,000 calories over the course of a 4 or 5 hour party.  Binges happen.

 

Holiday issues require different strategies, but for now, all we are talking about is increasing your intake of good foods that you like (more eggs, more salads -- maybe with some chicken or tuna, or turkey -- more yogurt and berries), so that you aren't hungry all the time and so you can sleep more than 3 or 4 hours (You cannot live like that!).

 

I used to be a big Subway fan for lunch and loved their sandwiches especially with the bread toasted.  But I realized that bread, but like some fruits, doesn't seem to keep me satisfied very long given the amount of calories.  So I mostly moved on from sandwiches to salads from a salad bar or that I make myself at home.  I still like bread, and if I get a burger out I usually save half for later and get a veggie side instead of fries.  The other way I might eat a sandwich is take off the top piece of bread and ask for a few tomato slices and eat with a knife and fork.  

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