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Looking for Fitbit friends for support and motivation

I am new to the fitbit community. I am 50 yrs old and have type 2 diabetes.

I have lost 20 lbs since Feb.but can't seem to keep myself motivated in recent

months. My weight loss has gone up a bit then down a bit but mostly around the same for

a few months now. I am on a weightloss program with the Warton Clinic which truly does work if followed.....counting calories, counting protein, fat, carbs, and fibre according to my resting 

metobolic rate. For about the last month I have a spur on my right heel so getting my

10000 steps per day doesn't happen often.  I am in need of suggestions and motivation.

Can you help?  Thanx

Ruby
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So is their calorie goal based on a set amount of daily burn that you now can't accomplish?

 

Then the eating level must be adjusted.

 

Of course, the way Fitbit works is always taking a deficit off the amount you burn.

 

Curious how close the Fitbit BMR is to your measured RMR?

Of course, you can lower your RMR by undereating too much too, so not always fair comparison.

 

If you look at your Log - Activity tab graph for calories burned in 5 min.

Find the obvious lowest value used for non-moving time.

Divide that by 5 x 1440 = BMR, usually close to Mifflin BMR formula.

What is that value?

 

What was your tested RMR? (that was with face mask, sitting/lying still for 15-20 min, right?)

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Hi Heybales, thank you for your reply, and yes, the rmr is done with a mouth piece and clip on the nose after 24hrs of no excercise and no caffine. My rmr was your measured at 2000, so the program I am with minuses  500, so my calorie intake is 1500 per day. Protein... 75g min... fat...42g or less...carbs...206g or less...fibre...30g or more. Some days I do well and stay on track, 1500 cals. others....not so good sitting around house. I am really messed up with my spur in my heel...so not getting my required 10000 steps. Darn husband has been bringing home chocolate so that is hard to resist....grrr...lol...I do know I need to eat more often like I was at the begining of this program so that my body doesn't think it is going into starvation mode.

I am just really off track right now...grrr.... need a kick in the pants I guess...hehe. I am my own worst enemy. I do go next week for another scheduled rmr, so I guess I'll see where 

I'm at...and wiegh in also...yikes...Thank You Heybales Smiley Happy

Ruby
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So the diet plan is take what you would burn sitting around awake doing nothing, just like in the test, all day, and subtract 500 to actually eat?

 

Then you create more deficit by actually getting up and moving around, and some hoped for walking as exercise?

 

Well, that should lead to more than 1 lb weekly, since I doubt you sit around 24 hrs daily like during the test.

 

But I could also see that deficit becoming unreasonable very fast. What if you did walk around and exercise too and burned 3000 in the day (only 1000 more than RMR, not hard at all). You'd be eating at 50% deficit - that's huge, eating half of what the body wants. And bad idea for reaching goal and maintaining.

 

Did they recommend using the Fitbit? Was it supposed to be 500 less than you burned all the time, not 500 less than a specific number?

 

Because frankly, with a disease, you don't have a healthy body, so you can't expect it not to be stressed taking a deficit that might be reasonable for others.

 

I hope you are eating more often than 72 hrs - that's how long it would take for body to think it was going to starve. Not skipping a meal - that's a myth. Eat your meals for whatever works for you and the diabetes, but don't be forcing it worse by thinking you have to eat frequently and always be spiking blood sugar and need a shot.

Starvation mode is brought on by taking too big a deficit for what the body wants, so it becomes more metabolically efficient to get closer to what you eat. Meaning what once was a 3000 calorie burn day becomes 2400 because it slows down by upwards of 20-25%.

When that happens you usually lose muscle mass too because just not eating enough.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i_cmltmQ6A

 

If you are not doing some resistance training - you are losing muscle right now anyway - not good at all. Because studies have shown it's the resistantance training and usage of muscular carb stores that helps insulin sensitivy.

Can you do some resistance training with heal spur? Machines at the least. The best thing is not always going to be walking steps, actually rarely is it the best thing possible. It is a thing that is possible for vast majority to improve on though, but that doesn't mean it's best.

 

And you can cause your RMR to go down by the amount you eat. You could keep chasing it down to that 20% suppression if eating level is always based on it, rather than what potential of the body could be. That would be a Bodpod or DEXA or hydrostatic measurement for bodyfat.

Just a thought. Because without that BF%, you don't know if measured RMR is actually correct for amount of BF or perhaps it is lower than expected.

 

Here's a case study showing just what one lady did to herself. I'll mention her weight gain in there was likely from binges, every binge was in excess to her reduced metabolism and daily burn, causing fat gain. It's not because of starvation mode, but that sure is made easier to accomplish eating in surplus when dealing with it. Every sick week, every binge meal or day, was all in excess and would have been stored as fat.

 

A similar case study was published by Jampolis (2004).

A 51 year old patient complained of a 15 lb weight gain over the last year, despite beginning a strenuous triathlon and marathon training program (2 hours per day, 5-6 days per week).

A 3 day diet analysis estimated a daily intake of only 1000-1200 Calories.

An indirect calorimetry revealed a resting metabolic rate of 950 Calories (28% below predicted for age, height, weight, and gender).

After medications and medical conditions such as hypothyroidism and diabetes were ruled out, the final diagnosis was over-training and undereating. The following treatment was recommended:

    • Increase daily dietary intake by approximately 100 Calories per week to a goal of 1500 calories
    • 32% protein; 35% carbohydrates; 33% fat
    • Consume 5-6 small meals per day
    • Small amounts of protein with each meal or snack
    • Choose high fiber starches
    • Select mono- and poly- unsaturated fats
    • Restrict consumption of starch with evening meals unless focused around training
    • Take daily multi-vitamin and mineral supplement
    • Perform whole body isometric resistance training 2 times per week

After 6 weeks, the patient's resting metabolism increased 35% to 1282 Calories per day (only 2% below predicted).

The patient also decreases percent fat from 37% to 34%, a loss of 5 lbs of body fat.

Jampolis MB (2004) Weight Gain - Marathon Runner / Triathlete. Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise, 36(5) S148.

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Wow very informative reply...ty...I do have resistant bands I could dig out and will! The program requires 8 different eating times, meals, 3.....3 snack times,...and two protein firsts (before lunch and dinner). no they did not mention fitbit...my step counter died so I just replaced it with the fitbit device on my own. I want to thank you very much for your concern and providing me with useful information which I will try to implement into a daily routine....

Ruby
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Hello Everyone,

I'm still kinda new to the FitBit community. Looking to increase my friends. I'm fairly active and really enjoy the extra motivation I've been receiveing from the community. Feel free to add me as a friend and join my Activity Group called Canada! Everyone welcome!! and also if you are on Twitter follow me @StealthEyes . I look forward to hearing from you and join you on your journey for Fit Living !! :smileyhappy:

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