Not loosing weight....

[Eliza21]

I'm trying really hard to loose weight. Brought a Blaze 6 weeks ago and I've lost 0.8lb and 1% body fat (I brought the Aria scales aswell). I'm trying so hard to loose 2lb+ a week have lots to loose. I'm using my fitness pal to log my calories and then transfering calories to my fitbit app cause I'm trying to keep my macro percentages in check and watch my nutrients. I'm drinking at least 2 litres of water a day. My deficit is between 1200- 2000 a day if I eat under 1600 calories I'm having low blood glucose. I'm teying so hard I'm familiar with all the mathematical statistics of loosing lbs, I'm aware that drinking more water helps loose weight, I'm taking multivitamins, I am trying to keep my protein and good fats up and carbe low... I'm Coeliac and have some it her health problems I'm exercising as much awards my body will let me and am on a host of pills but previously my Dr Said if I'm eating healthy I should loose weight. I gained so much weight as some of my Meds make me crave food mainly sweet food but managed to curb it using options hot chocolate twice a day at 40cals. When I'm not seeing results I fall off the waggon but I don't want to this time I want to be healthy as much as I want to loose weight. Any advice would be great... thanks.

[shipo]

@Eliza21, as a general statement, many of the folks in the know will suggest you scale back your weekly weight loss goals to more like a pound; your goal of 2+ pounds, while achievable, in theory, can actually work against you in that your metabolism can slow down into "starvation mode", and make it very-VERY difficult to lose any significant weight.

A few comments in no particular order:

• Drinking 2 liters of water per day sounds a bit low; most folks I know successfully losing weight typically drink more like 4 liters of water per day; I drink more like 6 to 8.
• As I understand it, having Coeliac can make finding the perfect balance between food, hydration, and exercise very difficult; a lot of experimenting may be necessary to find that balance.
• Basing weight loss on as little as only six weeks of tracking is a potentially self defeating process.  Why?  Assuming a new diet/exercise routine, during your first few weeks of tracking your body is going to be going through a whole host of adaptations, some of which can make you weigh more than you do today.
• My advice would be to work with your doctor to come up with a reasonably conservative diet/exercise plan, and then stick with it for a few months before making any other changes.

[Eliza21]

I researched the water intake and this was what I came up with but I'm happy to increase it. I do drink herbal tea which I haven't included in my fluid intake. This is a valid and achieve able abutment I'm happy to make.
I'm more than happy to lower my expectations I just want to shift this weight.
My Dr is useless her advice is eat less but I don'the eat masses anyway and I have overhauled it completely I've always enjoyed good healthy food. She isn't interested when I told her my blood Glucose was plummeting.
I'll be open minded and keep going as it's not just weight loss it's a better lifestyle and helping my overall health!
Thanks for answering🖒🖒🖒

[shipo]

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@Eliza21 wrote:
I researched the water intake and this was what I came up with but I'm happy to increase it. I do drink herbal tea which I haven't included in my fluid intake. This is a valid and achieve able abutment I'm happy to make.
I'm more than happy to lower my expectations I just want to shift this weight.
My Dr is useless her advice is eat less but I don'the eat masses anyway and I have overhauled it completely I've always enjoyed good healthy food. She isn't interested when I told her my blood Glucose was plummeting.
I'll be open minded and keep going as it's not just weight loss it's a better lifestyle and helping my overall health!
Thanks for answering🖒🖒🖒

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• Unsweetened herbal tea counts for hydration; in my case I almost never drink straight water, probably an easy 90% of my liquid intake is green tea.
• When I crank up my workout levels (I'm a runner), I have to be careful to eat enough and/or not workout too much; last month my boss got me involved in a Fall Challenge here at work and I bumped my daily mileage to a bit over 11, a couple of evenings I was leading the horses in from the pasture and suddenly felt faint, cold, and clammy.  A few cheese and crackers set me right.

[Eliza21]

I'll remember that and start logging that intake. I drink camomile and also Green tea with elderflower. Also have a glass of the children's juice with my dinner. I would imagine it racks up to about 4-6 litres.
I started running a couple of years ago I loved it but then my health deteriorated and I have inflammatory arthritis so I move about as much as I can but am restricted, it gets quite painful and frustrating as I've allways been ano active person.
I will have another chat with my Dr and see what she says I cannot keep lugging this weight around on my poorly joints. Thank you for all your input I appreciate it. 🖒🖒

[Rich_Laue]

@Eliza21 and @shipo I've moved this thread to the manage weight forum, since it is closer to the subject. I'm sure there will be more joining in. 

[A_Lurker]

@Eliza21 - first, welcome.  I don't want to assume how much weight you have to lose, as everyone has a different definition of lots.  A deficit of 1200-2000 is likely too agressive and your body may be freaking out.  I've been able to maintain a 2/week loss since earlier this year and at the beginning I was eating too little and not being consistent in my losses.

A tracker is a good start, but they may not be 100% accurate.  I've found my actual losses vs what I should lose are off by about 10% overall.  So let's start with a few things.  How many calories does your tracker say that you burn each day?  Another thing is to consider is what your BMR is (basal metabolic rate).  This is a number you shouldn't eat below usually.  This is where how much you have to lose is important.  I've lost close to 90 pounds, but still have a lot to go.  So, try this site and pop in your information:

http://www.fat2fittools.com/tools/bmr/

If your goal is too far away from where you are you'll see red and it will suggest that you pick an in between number.  This will give you an idea of what your BMR is and what you could eat in order to lose weight (based on activity level).  Start there and please ask more questions as you go.

[GershonSurge]

@Eliza21

All of your physical problems spring from the same source. You are putting poisons in your body in the form of the foods you are eating. You can’t cure the effects of these poisons by taking a variety of pills each day. Your doctor is useless, and you should get another one. She will keep you hooked on pills and never make you healthy. You will continue to get sicker throughout a shortened life.

The body has a remarkable ability to heal itself once the poisons are removed from the diet. In fact, you could feel considerably better within a week or two.

Right now, your diet is exactly the opposite of a healthy diet. It should be high carb, low fat and about 10 to 15% of your calories from protein.

I suggest you stop getting information from this forum and go to www.drmcdougall.com and make your post in the Lounge topic of their discussion board. There are many people there who have recovered from the same situation.

[AndyDandyPandy]

If you think it is your health issue that is stopping you from losing weight you should seek a new doctor to see if they can help you. I don't know if we have any real doctors in this community so any advice can be for the better or worst. 

I won't tell you what should be in your diet or what physical activity you should do because if you have a health condition only your doctor should be telling you those information.

All I can say is are you feeling better since you started trying to lose weight? Do you think you are doing enough? Is your health improving? Do you think you can improve yourself more? Are you more physically/mentally stronger now? 

Just from my experience, weight doesn't truly define if you're having improvements especially when it's only been weeks. Maybe you are losing fat but still retaining a lot of water weight. Like I tell most people, it could be high sodium intake which is one of the main cause why people gain weight so suddenly or why they aren't losing weight. If you don't do enough exercise to shed excess amount of water weight, it is hard to lose those water weight when your diet consists high consumption of sodium. And when the weight loss doesn't happen people give up. That's why I support strict diets and fast weight loss for beginners because their motivation relies on seeing the scale move down. It is hard for begginers to understand the fact that getting thinner/healthier is more than just losing weight on the scale.

Bottom line, see a new doctor, work out a new diet with that doctor, do any exercise that you can do. Don't give up, you'll cry a few times, experience pain and suffering, fail, it's up to you to get back up, you'll hate yourself, have emotional break down, gain weight again, lose motivation, get tired of your new habits, and many more. It'll be a long and hard but rewarding journey. This is what most people losing weight go through. It is not easy, it's not a smooth ride, things won't happen as quick as you want it to, but at the end of the day it is worth it or atleast you can tell yourself you gave it your all. Good luck.

[mommo77]

Thanks, Andy, for your post.  It wasn't directed at me but I'm so glad I read it.   I've been 'stalled' for the past month or so, going through exactly what you described, the ups and downs, feelings of frustration, all of it.  I needed to be reminded that this journey isn't a straight path, and that I'm not alone in how I feel or how I'm getting where I'm going.  Like the OP I just want to get healthy, weight loss along with that is a bonus.  Of course I'm impatient to see results, but I keep telling myself I've come too far for this to be as far as I can go. 

[Eliza21]

Thank you everyone for your comments...

All my nutritional information came from a friend who is a personal trainer. Tailored to what I need in my diet. I've had problems removing sugar as it's something I've craved since starting my Meds but it's very managed to almost completely remove the volume of refinned sugar I consume.
I research alot about foods that will help with my health problems. I do not believe coming off my Meds will help as last year I weighed 3stone less at 188lb last year and a very healthy diet I was bed bound by my health problems. Only since I've been ono medication can I get out of bed and function. My GP dosent help tailor diets that's other heir job we have a 7 min appointment monthly and many things to discuss she dosent have time to talk diets lol.

I need to loose just under 90lb in total and I currently weigh 228lb I eat less that my BMR and I'm on my feel all day... I'm not fast but I keep as mobile as I can. I do stretches and excercises with my partners help I'm pushing my body as much alls can.

[A_Lurker]

@Eliza21 - if your friend is a personal trainer and recommending that you eat under your BMR, this is a problem.  Make sure that you are clear on this with them.  Not talking about calories burned, but your BMR.  This is usually considered a minimum of what you eat as this is how much your body burns while completely at rest.  Trying to eat less than that for any period of time can put stress on your system.  Although I think that the term starvation mode is often over-used (ie. one bad day does not a freak out cause) consistently under-eating can be just as bad when trying to lose weight, especially for women. 

[AEKB11]

Hey there! I have had the same problem when I first got my surge, before I used to use my Polar F4 HRM during workouts and MFP for tracking calories. It took me about 8 weeks to start seeing a huge difference. The scale didn't move much (which was fine with me) I wanted to lose inches and tone. BUT I only saw results after sticking with my diet & fitness religiously for 8 - 12 weeks. You could try upping your carbs (good carbs - sweet potato / brown rice / whole wheats etc) Carbs aren't the bad guys, they are good for energy! I was eating 60% protein, 20 % carbs , 20 % fats, and wasn't seeing results as much as I wanted. So swtiched it up to 60% protein, 30 % carbs , 10 % fats and saw a HUGE improvement after 3 weeks. I do also follow the alternate day intermittent fasting diet. It does take a while to get used to. So as an example, MON/WED/FRI My feed window is 12-7pm of 1400 cals. TUE/THUR/SAT my feed window is 5 - 7pm of 900 cals. Which I usually have a high carb dinner followed my a light snack and sunday is my fast day. Nadda till 12pm the next day in which I start the cycle over.

I wish you the best and hope you find something that does eventually work for you 🙂

[GershonSurge]

@Eliza21,

It breaks my heart to see people suffer so much when the solution is so simple. 

Your doctor is doing nothing more than trying to get lab results in the "normal" range by giving you medicines that have deadly effects if taken over time. Side effects are real, and they happen to some extent to everyone who takes them. Even if the lab results do get in the normal range, the underlying conditions still exist and will ultimately destroy your body.

Personal trainers are interested in building muscle, not overall health. A high protein diet will ultimately reduce kidney function, may cause kidney stones, cause gallstones, and help cancer grow. These are not up for scientific debate as it has been proven in many peer reviewed studies. 

If the diet you were on before you went in the hospital was healthy, you wouldn't have gone in the hospital and you wouldn't have gained the weight back.

For your own health, please go here and put your original post in the Lounge topic. Give them a week or so to explain the way of eating, and then follow it for a month. 

[shipo]

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@GershonSurge wrote:

Personal trainers are interested in building muscle, not overall health. A high protein diet will ultimately reduce kidney function, may cause kidney stones, cause gallstones, and help cancer grow. These are not up for scientific debate as it has been proven in many peer reviewed studies. 

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I would say it is very much up for scientific debate.  Why?  Many recent peer reviewed studies have concluded high-protein diets can be harmful for people who already have chronic kidney disease, and low-to-moderate protein diets are generally advisable for these patients.  However, just because a low-protein diet can be therapeutic for those with kidney disease, doesn’t mean a high-protein diet causes kidney disease in the first place.

[GershonSurge]

@shipo

Name five after you read "The Starch Solution" by Dr. McDougall.

[shipo]

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@GershonSurge wrote:

@shipo

Name five after you read "The Starch Solution" by Dr. McDougall.

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No, will will not engage you in this; I wrote what I wrote to caution folks to consider Dr. McDougall's advice suspect.  I know you will steadfastly remain an adherent of his.

[GershonSurge]

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@shipo wrote:

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@GershonSurge wrote:

@shipo

Name five after you read "The Starch Solution" by Dr. McDougall.

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No, will will not engage you in this; I wrote what I wrote to caution folks to consider Dr. McDougall's advice suspect.  I know you will steadfastly remain an adherent of his.

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And I know you have no facts to back up your opinion. It's impossible, because you haven't read his works or made the least effort to learn about him. So stop engaging every time I bring up Dr. McDougall. It's not only him. It's a growing circle of doctors who are proveably curing disease through similar diets.

[shipo]

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@GershonSurge wrote:

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@shipo wrote:

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@GershonSurge wrote:

@shipo

Name five after you read "The Starch Solution" by Dr. McDougall.

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No, will will not engage you in this; I wrote what I wrote to caution folks to consider Dr. McDougall's advice suspect.  I know you will steadfastly remain an adherent of his.

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And I know you have no facts to back up your opinion. It's impossible, because you haven't read his works or made the least effort to learn about him. So stop engaging every time I bring up Dr. McDougall. It's not only him. It's a growing circle of doctors who are proveably curing disease through similar diets.

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Uh-huh, well, in the words of noted epidemiologist Elizabeth Whelan, "John McDougall's advice is poor" and concludes said advice is, "extreme and out of keeping with nutritional reality."

While I have not read any of his books, I have read enough about his plans and recommendations, and my personal "opinion" is they are out of touch with the nature of the human system.  The thing is, you say I have no facts, but the facts and studies I have to back up what I say are no less valid than the ones you point to for your opinions.

Note to other readers: before you take any advice from the internet or an internet forum such as this, do some research of your own first.

[GershonSurge]

@shipo,

You are great at discrediting Dr. McDougall  and others who you know absolutely nothing about.

The thing is, your adeptness at doing this may cost the OP her life. Hope you are proud of yourself.

Gershon