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Why is this now available on only some Charge 3 and Versas? 

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Mmmm... A delta between 1minute samples... I did not think it that way. I rather think it's a delta wrt to some reference. I'll further investigate and cross compare with your results. 

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My graphs disappeared a few days ago. How do I get them back?

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That's quite a knowledgeable answer. Thank you for that information.
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Shannon -- I don't know of any way to get them back other than to wait until they magically reappear (if they ever do). You can download your data archive from Fitbit, though, and it should include the raw data, but with no explanation of how to interpret it.

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My estimated oxygen variation graph has disappeared from my versa 2 log, and it is no.longer recording it?

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I'm trying to understand how anything other than the actual O2 readings,
displayed live and in charts (expressed as a percentage the way a finger
clip would) have any viable meaning. For instance, I was very sick a
couple years ago, and the ER had to decide if I should be admitted. Finger
clip in place (in the ER), they had me take a walk without supplemental O2
- and then watched as my O2 percentage on that display dropped fairly
quickly as I slowly walked down that hall. I have a finger clip like that
at home - didn't cost much, but quite accurate (I've compared it to
professional units). I know the watch will be a bit less accurate for
being reflective - no big deal.

Or, at night. I have apnea. I lost a lot of weight, I'm much quieter at
night now. It would be nice ti see a chart against my Fitbit estimated
sleep level of my O2. If my O2 drops at times, that would make sense if my
apnea is still a big issue - especially if it showed me as not asleep or
only lightly sleeping.

As I walk, or exercise, I can see my O2 level down a big, maybe. But if it
drops a lot - maybe I've got a problem.

So what does anyone here think that this weird graph I've seen means?

I am guessing that Fitbit is seeing the intense dislike to what they put
out there for a few people, and realizing that few people are being fooled
by it, so they pulled it back with no warning so maybe they can consider
providing information that is actually usable. They have to know that it's
possible. But it also makes one wonder that their system just doesn't work
well enough and they felt they needed to try and disguise the problem. Yet
a few years and a few models by now and they really ought to have it right.
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Mine EOV data also disappeared tonight.  When this happened before, rebooting my iPhone and Versa 2 fixed it but not this time.  Anyone have a fix?

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Sure - convince Fitbit to turn it back on. BTW, what did you actually learn
from the chart?
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They told me they are working on the software to fix. Several others have
reported this glitch .

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I was seeing the EOVs for a few weeks but they are no longer there.  ??

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Someone asked what it was possible to learn from the limited data (well, really just a tiny chart) that Fitbit provided. A really-good question, since of course it isn't nearly as data-rich as actual readings. My speculation is that since SPO2 can't really go up dramatically from its normal values (which are 95%+), dramatic changes during sleep (the only time that the Fitbit data was reporting) are potential warning signs of Apnea events. But since it isn't medically-approved to diagnose Apnea, the rapid change is all that Fitbit can report. 

 

In fairness to Fitbit, that makes some sense, but without being able to see the actual values and the amount of time that lower SPO2 readings were reported, it is hard to know what to do with the data. But providing that information might require FDA approval for its veracity?

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I find it hard to believe that FDA would require their approval before
Fitbit could display SPO2 readings.

I do believe and expect that FDA approval would be required for Fitbit to
provide or suggest a diagnosis of apnea.

I don't believe that FDA approval would be needed for Fitbit to suggest you
contact your doctor about SPO2 readings.
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pbug56 -- There is an FDA approval process for pulse-oximeters. My impression is that you can't simply report what you say is a person's SPO2 willy-nilly, whether or not you or I think that is an arbitrary regulation. I'm not even close to an expert in this area, and happy to hear from those who are, but as an example FDA guideline: https://www.fda.gov/media/72470/download

 

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Interesting. Well after 2 to 3 years of having them in some of their
watches, Fitbit should have received approval a long time ago. If not, I
can't understand why they would be at least 4 models by now over these few
years.
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For what it’s worth the EVO data is back.

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I'm guessing not much? Did you have to do anything to make 'nothing'
happen?
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According to FDA documents something is to be classified as a medical device, for the purpose of regulation, if it is intended for use in the diagnosis of disease or other conditions, or in the cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease, in man or other animals.

A fancy watch that can suggest a greater or lesser likelihood of apnea is most certainly such a diagnosis tool and thus subject to regulation. This would cause fees for publicly traded companies like Fitbit to start at $100K and rapidly goes up from there. The 2.3% Obamacare medical device fee has recently been repealed at least for now but may return with future administrations.

It is easy to underestimate the cost and difficulty of introducing a de novo product in such a regulated environment.

There is currently exemptions for "rare" diseases, but not applicable for common sleep disorder.

I guess it's up to the current and possibly future administrations to correct this and fix these shortcomings.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Mine is too! Thanks for letting us know!

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The EVO is back!  Just reappeared this morning.

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On which devices and is it country by country rollout
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