08-25-2020 10:57 - edited 08-25-2020 10:59
08-25-2020 10:57 - edited 08-25-2020 10:59
Hi all,
So the new Sense device looks to be very exciting I have owned many Fitbit devices and will no doubt own this one too. I am concerned that a lot of the new sensors will show data without premium and some data only with a Premium subscription. I'd like to know exactly for the new features, which data will be accessible to those without a premium subscription. Does anyone know?
Thanks!
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08-25-2020 12:41
08-25-2020 12:41
@Deucalion0 Here is what I've found is Premium-only from reading the Fitbit investor site that @N8teGee linked me to. I cut out some of the fluff so this wouldn't be too long:
08-25-2020 12:06
08-25-2020 12:06
@Deucalion0, great to see you in the community.
That's a good question! I'm too having difficulty finding out which features are premium. Hopefully a Moderator can help with this.
08-25-2020 12:41
08-25-2020 12:41
@Deucalion0 Here is what I've found is Premium-only from reading the Fitbit investor site that @N8teGee linked me to. I cut out some of the fluff so this wouldn't be too long:
08-27-2020 03:42
08-27-2020 03:42
5hwbk you very much for that information that is very helpful I appreciate it!
08-27-2020 09:08
08-27-2020 09:08
Currently advanced sleep tracking is a premium feature. What new data provided by the SENSE will be free and what will be premium?
08-27-2020
12:27
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MarreFitbit
08-27-2020
12:27
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14:53
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MarreFitbit
Hi everyone! It's great to see you participating in the forums. @N8teGee and @Heather-S, thanks for your great support!
@Deucalion0 and @SunsetRunner, thanks for your interest in our newest Fitbit Sense. In regards to your questions, please check @Heather-S's post which includes detailed information about the Premium subscription and its features. You can also find our Press Release details here.
@SunsetRunner, by the way, I've moved your post to this thread so you can receive more related responses about your inquiry.
08-27-2020 12:36
08-27-2020 12:36
Trying to sort through the information, it looks like if you buy a sense you get a free trial of premium. After that in order to leverage the new data you have to subscribe. No thanks. I'm not paying over $300 plus a $10/mo subscription.
08-27-2020 19:06
08-27-2020 19:06
Hi, @SunsetRunner , most of the sleep analysis (Including sleep score) is actually available without premium. Here is a comparison chart for sleep:
What's the difference between free and Fitbit Premium sleep information?
Sleep schedule | ✓ | ✓ |
Quality: Deep & REM sleep stages Analysis of sleep stages | ✓ ✓ | ✓ ✓ |
Duration: Time asleep and awake Analysis of sleep duration | ✓ ✓ | ✓ |
Restoration: Sleeping heart rate & restlessness Analysis of sleeping heart rate & restlessness | ✓ ✓ |
I would say that the main additional sleep information you get with Premium is sleeping heartrate, and what percent of your sleep is below your calculated resting heartrate. Of course, without Premium you can see a graph of your heartrate during the period when you are asleep so have always been able to see your heartrate range and lowest point while asleep. You just don’t get the average calculated for you.
Basically with Premium you get a more integrated analysis: the new Fitbit Premium Health Metrics dashboard will help you keep tabs on your breathing rate (average breaths per minute), resting heart rate, heart rate variability (the time between each heartbeat), and skin temperature variation. You will also be able to track your SpO2 trends over time, including your nightly average level.
A six month free trial comes with the new Sense. After six months you can cancel or subscribe. Fitbit Premium costs $9.99 per month or $79.99 for the full year.
I hope this helps.
Sense, Charge 5, Inspire 2; iOS and Android
08-27-2020 22:18
08-27-2020 22:18
"I would say that the main additional sleep information you get with Premium is sleeping heartrate"
And even then, it's possible to view this data for free (without) premium by linking your account with cardiogram. In fact the cardiogram sleep HR chart is more detailed than the Fitbit premium one 🤷🏽:male_sign:. It also shows your average sleep HR, just like you would get from the Fitbit premium data.
08-28-2020 00:23
08-28-2020 00:23
It is worthy to highlight that if you have already made use of the Fitbit Premium trial (say the earlier 7 days or the most recent 90 days covid-19 initiative) you will not be able to use the 6 months premium offer.
So basically, assuming that all existing Fitbit users already made use of the trial, the offer is valid only for new Fitbit users.
08-28-2020 06:43
08-28-2020 06:43
Thanks for the information. You made my point, they are coming out with a new device that provides more information, but are very careful to conceal that you will have to pay $9.99/month to get it. They advertise that NEW premium users get some months free, but NEVER state which features are behind the paywall that you eventually have to pay for. They need to make that crystal clear so people can make informed buying decisions. This is shady at best.
08-28-2020 09:15
08-28-2020 09:15
@Giampi71 , someone reported on a different thread that as she had only had the 7 day trial and that it was over a year ago she was being given access to the six month trial.
@SunsetRunner it is considerably cheaper if you pay annually rather than monthly.
Sense, Charge 5, Inspire 2; iOS and Android
08-28-2020 09:27
08-28-2020 09:27
I agree 100%. The Sense is expensive, I have bought it, I think it can help improve my quality of life but if I need to buy a Premium prescription to get the benefits of this expensive hardware I feel that's unfair at the price of this hardware. I trialled Premium with the covid-19 90 day trial with my Versa 2 and it did provide some cool data and features but overall it was not worth the subscription, I am happy enough without that data with my Versa 2. I just hope that's the same with the Sense and I'm sad to hear that those who took advantage of the covid-19 trial is not eligible for the 6 months trial that comes with the Sense. At least provide those who have already trialled with a 90 days trial with the Sense so we can see what is new.
08-31-2020 02:50
08-31-2020 02:50
So if i understand this correct, than u need Premium to see the heart rate from your sleep ?
This is ridicoulus in my mind. Also the point "Sleep Stages" are free but "Restlessness in Sleep" is Premium. This is just mindboggling. In 90% of the cases you dont remember restlessness but fitbit thinks its no Sleepstate xD
To conclude fitbit cant say their watches can track 24/7 heart rate, because for sleeping heart rate you have to pay extra every month/year premium and they dont mention that clearly !!. You cant even use the complete skintemperature Sensor because u need to pay premium to use it. It uses energy but u cant use it ^^
If they were clever they deliver all Numbers, Statistics and Metrics/Graphs from all sensors for free as every other manufacturer. And if you want to know IN TEXT what those numbers mean + programs you have to pay extra.
08-31-2020 08:33
08-31-2020 08:33
Hi, @Honepeople it is definitely not correct that you will not be able to see your heartrate during sleep unless you have Premium. You will continue to have the graph that shows your heartrate and you can access the exact heartrate detected throughout your sleep. The only extra feature for sleeping heartrate is that Fitbit will provide an average sleeping heartrate (which you would have to calculate yourself using the basic set up). You will, of course, in the basic (non Premium) set up also have a daily report of your Resting heartrate, which is the rate calculated throughout the day and night during periods when you are quiet and not exerting yourself.
Fitbit has confirmed that NO features currently offered to Fitbit users (such as sleeping heartrate) will be moved behind a pay wall.
I hope this helps.
Sense, Charge 5, Inspire 2; iOS and Android
08-31-2020 09:30 - edited 08-31-2020 10:16
08-31-2020 09:30 - edited 08-31-2020 10:16
"The only extra feature for sleeping heartrate is that Fitbit will provide an average sleeping heartrate (which you would have to calculate yourself using the basic set up)."
@Julia_G And also the separate HR chart that is just for the sleep period (only available for premium users). The regular HR chart available to all users shows the whole 24hr period as you rightly say, but I do find the premium sleep chart to be more detailed/easier to read
The first two screenshots are of the (free) regular HR graph/tracking, with the third one showing the premium only HR chart and the last one showing how this looks to non premium users (you will see the section is locked).
The chart can be expanded allowing the user to select a point
This is the premium chart which only shows the sleeping section.
08-31-2020 10:20
08-31-2020 10:20
@N8teGee , I am certainly not saying that there aren’t advantages to Premium, of course!
I am just simply making it clear:
1. No previously available features will be behind a pay wall, only extras
2. Sleeping heart rate is, and will continue to be, available on the basic, no charge platform. I was addressing @Honepeople ‘s concern about that, and clarifying as there was some confusion about sleeping heartrate.
Sense, Charge 5, Inspire 2; iOS and Android
08-31-2020 10:27
08-31-2020 10:27
@Julia_G I agree, the whole thing is very confusing, especially to new users. The only ones to blame here though are Fitbit themselves for not making things clear. I wish they would just make a simple chart comparing free features against premium ones.
08-31-2020 10:28
08-31-2020 10:28
Understood that they are not moving any content free today into premium tomorrow. But what they are not saying is how much of the new functionality will be premium. What it feels like to me is a lot of people are going to buy the SENSE and bit enraged to find that some of the new cool features are pay to play. Until they clearly state what is free and what is premium, I certainly won't be upgrading.
08-31-2020 10:29
08-31-2020 10:29
Exactly.