@WilliamAnderson wrote:
In reply to GershonSurge's message 62:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4002317/
One needs to read papers carefully. I will agree that calorie restriction has been shown many times to increase longevity, but it's not that simple.
Here is the first line of the second section of the paper you referenced:
"Calorie restriction (CR) is defined as a reduction in calorie intake below the usual ad libitum intake without malnutrition." Ad libitum means a person freely eats the amount of food they want.
Let's look at the World Health Organization's definition of malnutrition:
"Malnutrition refers to deficiencies, excesses or imbalances in a person’s intake of energy and/or nutrients. The term malnutrition covers 2 broad groups of conditions. One is ‘undernutrition’—which includes stunting (low height for age), wasting (low weight for height), underweight (low weight for age) and micronutrient deficiencies or insufficiencies (a lack of important vitamins and minerals). The other is overweight, obesity and diet-related noncommunicable diseases (such as heart disease, stroke, diabetes and cancer)"
You have focused on a facet of calorie restriction that only applies to a person trying to lose weight. That is eating fewer calories than burned. Your food recommendations pay no heed to the fact that most of them increase the risk of noncommunicable diseases. In other words, the recommendations cause malnutrition. You can't justifiably claim the benefits of the paper you referenced without following all the rules.
You challenged my credibility when I said your food choices were unhealthy. I challenge you to study the facts. I'll give you only four books to read. I suggest reading them in order.
1. The Starch Solution by Dr. McDougall. Dr. McDougall started out as a general practitioner around 1973. He later became a board-certified internist in five states. He is a real doctor with real patients. I consider him "the great explainer." Although he has not done many research projects on his own, he has gathered information from much of the research out there. If you read his book and read the research he references, you will discover why your diet recommendations are unhealthy.
2. Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease: The Revolutionary, Scientifically Proven, Nutrition-Based Cure by Dr. Esselstyn. Dr. Esselstyn is one of two doctors (three if you include Nathan Pritikin who was a researcher) who have demonstrated the ability to arrest and reverse advanced heart disease in virtually all patients. He demands strict compliance for his patients and gets it. I'm sure it doesn't happen all at once.
3. The China Study by Dr. T. Colin Campbell. Many people, including Dr. Campbell, say the China Study didn't prove anything. In fact, only one chapter in the book references the China Study. His strength is pointing out that it's the whole way of eating that determines health. He also explains why reductionist thinking doesn't work. You will discover there is only one ratio that determines health outcomes. I'll leave you to discover it.
4. The Pleasure Trap by Doug Lisle. Doug has been a therapist for True North for over 30 years. He is also the therapist for the McDougall program. You will learn why portion control such as you use physiologically can't work for most people. It has nothing to do with psychology. You will also learn why some people are lean while eating all the wrong foods.
Before you challenge my credibility, you need to challenge the credibility of these men by reference to their works. They are my rulebooks. All of these men have taken different paths to essentially the same recommendations. There is a slight difference in their writing in the amount of starch eaten, but when I watch videos of what they eat, they agree.
If you have a different rule book supported by more than 35 years of experience with no primary research, then we can match it against my team's results.
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