Rest heartrate question

[Merkillin]

Hey,

I thought my Fitbit Charge hr was supposed to track my lowest heart rate level?
I woke up last night a few times and I saw far lesser readings.
I have been reading about how the rest heart rate might be higher asleep than awake. Yet I did see numbers like 55, but the fitbit charge hr logged this time a 70.
It's baffling to see this, but I'm just wondering if the system is designed to take readings in a certain time?

[Merkillin]

Okay, then before the rest heart rate is only available to premium to the app I'm interested in it.
Until then I'm happy without the premium and following only the available factors.

And it's really helpful to hear from you, a 4 year user of your experiences

[Merkillin]

As you have seen previous updates and improvements,how have they measured up with timetables and other points?
For instance Android world is famous for keeping their promises. And another case from the opposite front, recoapp have promised to expand to android world for several years, but nothing....

[Colinm39]

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@Merkillin wrote:
As you have seen previous updates and improvements,how have they measured up with timetables and other points?
For instance Android world is famous for keeping their promises. And another case from the opposite front,recoapp have promised to expand to android world for several years, but nothing....

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@Merkillin As you will find Fitbit are a little tardy in their upgrades. Like all technical innovative companies, trying to get the balance between Sales and Support is always difficult and hopefully with this latest Public Offering and 9,000,000 Fitbits sold in 6 months we may see an improvement.

[Colinm39]

@Merkillin I didn't wear my Charge HR while asleep last night and it is now 3 hours into the day and my RHR hasn't changed. It is still showing yesterday's RHR. From my readings of Fitbit's RHR it says a period of time with no activity. So, is that steps and/or HR ? and it definitely does take sleeping into account because my RHR normally spikes in the first hour after arising and then keeps adjusting during the day.

[Merkillin]

Hey, colinm39

Sorry that my answer took this long. When we began to talk here, I was taking care of my sons at home and one was sick. So I had time then.
On friday I are it back to work, I'm a 43 years old bus driver in southern Finland. I drive a so called shuttle line to city and back.

About this fitbit, I'm a bit wiser now. I was poking around the app and found a graph of my sleeping rhr. The problem is that my phone doesn't have copy paste on screensaves, so there's a bunch of other app's that I can paste it to, just not here.
I can see that my rhr went between 50 and 40, and here lies the problem. The graph itself shows lines 69 and 40, which are very far apart.

[Colinm39]

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@Merkillin wrote:
Hey, colinm39

Sorry that my answer took this long. When we began to talk here, I was taking care of my sons at home and one was sick. So I had time then.
On friday I are it back to work, I'm a 43 years old bus driver in southern Finland. I drive a so called shuttle line to city and back.

About this fitbit, I'm a bit wiser now. I was poking around the app and found a graph of my sleeping rhr. The problem is that my phone doesn't have copy paste on screensaves, so there's a bunch of other app's that I can paste it to, just not here.
I can see that my rhr went between 50 and 40, and here lies the problem. The graph itself shows lines 69 and 40, which are very far apart.

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@Merkillin If you tap the RHR graph you will have another image and you can tap on each day to see the RHR actual.

[Merkillin]

Actually I did exactly that.
The graph lines are too far apart, and I don't know can you add more lines there

[Colinm39]

@MerkillinI think it is just a matter of time. Fitbit data is too inaccurate because you have only had it for a few days.   Here is my example from the Android

[Merkillin]

How come a matter of time?

[Colinm39]

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@Merkillin wrote:
How come a matter of time?

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@Merkillin I have just examined some of my past records on all of my HR Fitbits and they all started with a sensible RHR. The maximum line gap was 10 points. On the monthly graph it is only 5 points.

If you are getting those extremities, what I said is not correct, therefore you should be looking at other areas like, the wearing of the Charge HR. Mine is always one finger loose, just above the wrist and this months RHR is OK, and I have a very low RHR. So Fitbit works through the crazy peaks we get.

Maybe you need to send an email to Support because with 30 points between the lines is not appropriate for you.   here is the link http://help.fitbit.com/?cu=1

This Month's RHR

5 Months of RHR, Cut and pasted and stitched together.

5 Days ago 24 hour Graph showing the spikes.

[Peggie]

Trying to keep up with the converstaion, but if I follow correctly: the rhr is wierd and no one can figure out how fitbit makes the calculation? 
Yeah... my hr while sleeping never gets above 58 and yet somehow my rhr is listed at 62. Doesn't make sense to me at all.  It also appears that the most recent software update (charge hr) changed things enough so that my sleep cyle seems slightly more accurate but rhr is worse...

Fat & Obese most of my life and never ever fit til Fitbit!

[Merkillin]

Hey Peggie,

The conversation kinda dried up...
As the conclusion was that would you be interested in the complaints of 5 people as they are selling 9 million units in the last six months.
Regarding my own unanswered questions to the support...

I'm happy with my fitbit, but I could be happier

[Colinm39 · Accepted solution]

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@Merkillin wrote:
Hey Peggie,

The conversation kinda dried up...
As the conclusion was that would you be interested in the complaints of 5 people as they are selling 9 million units in the last six months.
Regarding my own unanswered questions to the support...

I'm happy with my fitbit, but I could be happier

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@Merkillin Even though we don't know the time lapse when Fitbit calculate the RHR during the day it is accurate for me..

It follows our temperature gradients here. In Melbourne, Downunder we have had 3 Summer heat waves, with yesterday getting to 42oC (107oF) and today it is a mere 19oC (66oF) after getting to 37oC (98oF) at midday.

The peaks below represent our gradually higher days of temperature and then the peak..  It was 30oC (88oF) while we slept last night. As I'm typing this the HR is 56 bpm on the Charge HR.

[Merkillin]

I wasn't aware that even the temperature was a fact with the estimated grade.
Yet I've come to the conclusion that it's the least worst way to get my rhr. I'm happy with the estimate.
I suddenly came across this Suunto Ambit3, which is the best heart rate tracker there is. It would also be able to use as a sleep tracker, but it uses the strap. And I tried one strap a few years ago, and I didn't like it.
Luckily Suunto gives a recovery time, which it calculates during the exercise. And it's quite enough for me

So, now I got Suunto and fitbit side by side on my left wrist

[Colinm39]

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@Merkillin wrote:
I wasn't aware that even the temperature was a fact with the estimated grade.
Yet I've come to the conclusion that it's the least worst way to get my rhr. I'm happy with the estimate.
I suddenly came across this Suunto Ambit3, which is the best heart rate tracker there is. It would also be able to use as a sleep tracker, but it uses the strap. And I tried one strap a few years ago, and I didn't like it.
Luckily Suunto gives a recovery time, which it calculates during the exercise. And it's quite enough for me

So, now I gotSuunto and fitbit side by side on my left wrist

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@MerkillinWith all of my Fitbit's and my trusty Polar rs300x Chest model I have compared` them all and on the Surges and Charge HR the RHR is within 1 bpm for the Fitbit algorithm's. They are also accurate with my Omron BP machine. All of this is at low intensity. Fortunately at my age I'm not into the HiiT stuff, but I get annoyed with the peaks the minute I start to move and Fitbit's averaging brings the calories to a sensible level.... that's for me.

Let's know how you go with you new testing.

Have a great Christmas and New Year.

[discobob]

oh boy... no wonder my "resting" rate is so much higher than my sleep rest rate.... I don't think I've been still or calm since I got it!

[Colinm39]

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@discobob wrote:

oh boy... no wonder my "resting" rate is so much higher than my sleep rest rate.... I don't think I've been still or calm since I got it!

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@discobob I'm still trying to come to grips with Fitbits calculation.

The 13 hours image below shows the discrepancy between sleep, inactivity and as I'm typing this and my current RHR

My HR is 54bpm while typing,