Allow us to move or delete Cardio Load prompt

There is a new Activity called Cardio Load on my home page and I cannot move or delete it. I don't care about it. I want to see my Steps on the top of the list and now I can't see them because of this new Activity and the size of my iPhone mini. This is ridiculous.

 

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509 Comments
Bexielou
First Steps

I have to comment again - apart from the sheer inaccuracy, I realised that it only gives shade, at no point is there a "good job you met your target" I wonder if Fitbit trying to be more like Garmin, but noone enjoys an inanimate object giving someone a hard time with zero logic, and completely inaccurately. My latest analysis is that I don't seem to work out on the days it wants me to. Say, tuesday it wants 150 but I only do 30, then wednesday low rate, I work out - 150 and then overtraining....So freaking weird. If it was accurate I would not mind it so much. Oh and the best bit, last week my watch/app crashed horribly, reset watch - it lost ALL the data, so it did not log my workout so my cardio was zero. IT IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOO BAD It is almost funny! 

nnaomi7
Jogger

I have commented previously about this stupid feature but it's become comical now. The cardio prompt seems to alternate daily between shaming me and telling me to slow down. But that's not all - it gets worse! On days I've done a bit more cardio (I've been slowly increasing some running mileage after an injury) it tells me that I'm sooo great that I have a NEW cardio goal. In other words, instead of treating the day of increased cardio as a high volume day that might require more recover, it has started to increase my cardio load. This only results in a cycle of shaming because I'm not hitting this new, unrealistic goal that I didn't ask for. And I've double checked that my fitness target is maintain, not improve...Please let us opt out of this nonsensical nonfeature. 

Zzcc0000
Recovery Runner

The final nail is now in the coffin.  Not only is the popup not even going away when I click on the 'X' anymore (and yes, I've deleted all data, so how does it know?), I have now seen the email telling me I need to move my fitbit account to a google account by next February ....  With all these adverse comments about what google has done to fitbit, why would they think anyone would even consider doing such a thing??  Just shows how out-of-touch they are, and completely care-less about their fitbit customers.   So, I now have 9 months (maybe - if I can put up with this for that long) to move to an appropriate smartwatch - any recommendations, please? - thanks.  (I'm 67 and like the step counter, the hourly prompt to move and the sleep and heartrate monitors.  Being able to track water intake is also useful.  I do NOT need to be told that I'm under or over performing, and obviously won't consider a google product!)

AbbyDC32
Recovery Runner

Agree. Very annoying and I still haven’t figured out what it actually means. I’ve been trying to remove it ever since it appeared with no good explanation available as to what it is. And no way to remove it permanently or even x out of it each day. It just stays there at the top above all the items I actually care about and understand. 

ermete666
First Steps

Make this thing go away - I mostly lift so I don't care of this bogus cardio load metric

rdjoycech
First Steps

I agree, extremely annoying that I have to read this stupid message every day.

Nlubcke
Recovery Runner

Cardio is not my goal so stop telling me Im "undertraining" FFS


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eminthevalley
First Steps

Allow us to get rid of it. The suggestions make no sense. One day it tells you you’re overtraining and the next you’re under training, pretty much regardless of activity. 

Fisk21
First Steps

Fitbit, you've had four months to consider a very reasonable request. What does it take to actually do something about this? The cardio load is useless and having a reminder shoved down my throat every morning is seriously making me consider a different tracker. How hard is it to remove the daily reminder when cardio load tracking is unchecked?

You clearly don't listen to customer feedback.

Alyab
Jogger

Get rid of this already! The cardio load notice is a joke. I have it switched off in the menu for featuring on my home page, and yet every morning it tells me I’m an underachiever regardless of how much I exercise. It’s demoralizing and makes me want to try a different service entirely. It’s been months since the first user made the request. And it’s a newish feature - so you have to know how you put it there such that it can be removed. 

cylonvamp
Jogger

I agree, it is time to get rid of the cardio load. I followed the directions to remove it and it keeps coming back.

cpc54
Jogger

Sick of the cardio load prompts especially when they tell me I'm at risk of undertraining and I know I'm not. I st my exercise targets not a poorly implemented algorithm. Why won't you listen to your customers and allow those of us who aren't interested in cardio load to turn it off totally including the nagging prompts. If your developers aren't capable of implementing such a simple change then I suggest you hire new ones


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Thinlatinmoose
First Steps

The cardio “advice” is either shaming for too much training or for not enough. This is very triggering and surely plays into people’s insecurities - why can this not be opted out of?

Lf1991
First Steps

If this doesn’t disappear shortly, I will be ordering a garmin. I’ve had a Fitbit for 10 years but the cardio load is off-putting. Sometimes it wants me to do 120 minutes of cardio a day - that’s just not realistic!

Dee95
First Steps

I have checked with google support team today and there is still no way of stopping the cardio load pop up and no solution in sight. 
As this inaccurate and disincentivising pop up is driving me mad I’ll reluctantly be saying goodbye to my Fitbit. 

cylonvamp
Jogger

When I can afford my Versa quits working I'll be moving on. I'm done. 

Alirose1617
First Steps

Agree with the cardio load message being annoying and shaming. Am considering getting rid of Fitbit app and Fitbit device if it doesn’t go away. 

cpc54
Jogger

Yesterday I was told I was in danger of under training and this morning told I was in danger of overtraining The Android Authority website mentioned the cardio load nagging 

https://www.androidauthority.com/sick-pixel-watch-3-vs-oura-ring-4-3548117/ 

 

LCot17
Jogger

This is a frustrating and useless “feature” - please listen to your users and give us the option to permanently disable it. I don’t find it helpful or accurate. Instead I find it frustrating and patronizing. 

cyndeewillow
Recovery Runner

I disabled Cardio Load because it is a terrible feature, but when I woke up in the morning, a note appeared on the app telling me what my cardio load is even though the feature was disabled. This is insanity. I don't want ANYTHING about cardio load on my app!!!!!

cb.tv
First Steps

Completely agree this message needs to go.  I enrolled in Cardio Load goals as I was curious, but never imagined when I was done with it, and having followed the instructions to delete Cardio Load data (as well as reset app to boot) I would be haunted by these annoying suggestions.

I'm a serious athlete with a professional coaching company and they manage my training load not Fitbit.  I really should move to Garmin, but I don't want to be forced to leave early due to nonsense like this, as Fitbit is good enough most of the time.

cpc54
Jogger
I go to the gym three times a week plus a weekly Personal Trainer session.
Sometimes I exceed the top of the target range, other times I don't reach
the target. I'm guided by my trainer and how I feel. I dislike a badly
programmed algorithm guilt tripping me into how much I should train.
Fitbit are ignoring customers by refusing to make a simple change to the
app and allow people to turn off the demotivating popups.
cyndeewillow
Recovery Runner

It's erratic and irrational from my point of view. (I'm sure it makes sense to those who know the formula, i.e., the devs). For 3 days it will tell me that I'm overtraining at under 30 points, then suddenly even though my daily readiness is average it will jump up to a minimum of 33 or higher and I don't know why. 

Wildflowers7
First Steps

This feature absolutely is useless and it’s really bad form that google does not give us the choice as a consumer and/or  user to remove. It told me to work more on my cardio load after I had been in Emergancy and had a ECG and angina. It didn’t think my heart was doing enough. Even the doctor said that’s pretty inaccurate. There is no point in its existence if a person needs this to help monitor steps and keep an eye on ones health etc. It’s demoralising at the very least. I really hate the Fitbit app since Google bought it over it is no longer as user friendly. I also repeatedly left reviews and emails to the former owners, asking for a notes feature similar to other health apps so that when I’m unwell and unable to exercise I can note that and it would be handy to look back on when I’m at my doctors for a checkup, rather than having to cross ref my watch with my calendar. 

MBW1029
First Steps

Please allow us to disable the Cardio Load daily prompt. I go from “…risk of under-training…” to “… risk of overtraining…” in a 24 hour span and it doesn’t make sense. I question the accuracy of the algorithm used to calculate the target load and want the option to disable the prompt. 

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