Allow us to move or delete Cardio Load prompt

There is a new Activity called Cardio Load on my home page and I cannot move or delete it. I don't care about it. I want to see my Steps on the top of the list and now I can't see them because of this new Activity and the size of my iPhone mini. This is ridiculous.

 

Moderator Edit: Clarified subject

618 Comments
judiloks
Stepping Up

I hate the cardio load messages, and the whole concept for that matter. The “NAG”doesn’t go away and stay away when you tap the x. The fact that Google hasn’t managed to fix this “bug” after so many months suggests they are deliberately seeking to make the whole fitbit platform unusable. The assigned cardio load goal for the day also appears to be utterly and ludicrously arbitrary. The cardio load values assigned on any given day seem to have no relationship to the actual efforts expended. Google took a good product in Fitbit and ruined it. Your programmers aren’t even able to handle the difference between metric and imperial measurements. Another permanent “bug.”

LadyBel
Recovery Runner

@PersonHuman oh I think you're onto something 🤔

What part was off topic? Did you point out that other tracker providers are superior purely because they don't go out of their way to hurt users? Did fitbit decide our welfare is off topic? 🤔

Keiga
First Steps

Yes please allow this prompt to be disabled. I find it demotivating and unhelpful, as its suggestions don’t align with how I feel (this is the same reason I turned off the readiness score). I would have a better experience with my Fitbit app if I wasn’t forced to see this readiness prompt 

Esso1962
Recovery Runner

Get the insistent and totally redundant message off my fitbit screen! It is a total turn-off!

cpc54
Recovery Runner

Today at the gym my cardio load actually started counting down. One minute it was showing I had achieved 22 and then it suddenly dropped to 20.

If Fitbit aren't going to make this useless feature optional they could at least make it work!

 

Esso1962
Recovery Runner
Thanks for that!!
j0toro
Jogger

I'm also debating switching to Garmin. Cardio Load is proving an absolute pain and I find it a horrible way of tracking activity. Shaming people is vile behaviour and can be triggering for some who are on a more gentle fitness journey. Given this, the issues with recurring alarms and now the fact mine is less than a year old and no longer auto tracking swims despite multiple agents trying to fix it, fitbit just isn't worth the cost any more when other wearables are available. 

Do better, Fitbit. 

Esso1962
Recovery Runner
Totally agree with you there! The cardio load comments are condescending
and almost always negative. It feels like an active discouragement to use
any tracking at all.

What is Fitbit trying to accomplish with this??
Muttley76
Stepping Up

Have to admit I reached my limit with this feature today. Last Friday i did a 10k charity run so my cardio load that day was exceptionally high. One week on i am being told I am at risk of under-training even though my cardio load AVERAGE for this week is identical to last week. 

Esso1962
Recovery Runner
Yes, very recognizable! It is a failed feature, but Google refuses to add
the option to remove it.

No one wants it but for the Google/Fitbit Team… 😡
Lili-94
Recovery Runner
I dislike the feature, it's scientifically unjustifiable given the lack of
detailed personal data that Fitbit/Google has access to, and it's
inaccurate and inconsistent. I went on some of the other discussion
groups, both Fitbit and Reddit, and some people seem to like it, some even
wanted it added to their Pixel or Fitbit device, others deride it as
inaccurate and disheartening. ALL OF WHICH argues for a feature that can
be enabled or disabled. My Charge 6 acknowledges that I do not have a
target - I have refused to set one - but I continue to get messages about
my training, over, under, and for all I care, through the middle. The
problems with the cardio load have made me realize how inaccurate many
Fitbit features are - and one of the people from Fitbit support did ask how
exact an answer I was expecting. That's something I would like to see. If
Fitbit/Google is refusing to remove or modify the cardio load feature,
let's have some information. How accurate is it? How accurate is Fitbit's
estimate of your VO2 Max? 40%? 60? 10%? If one of your primary activities
is swimming, then the Cardio Load feature could never be accurate because
it doesn't track heart rate in the water. Basically this whole discussion
has proved to me that if Cardio Load isn't optional, maybe my Fitbit is.
Esso1962
Recovery Runner
Good points. It is indeed a random measurement and I also question the
accuracy of Fitbit altogether.

Whereas I have turned off all measurement features as well, the mandatory
cardio load as well as prompts to move every hour are getting on my nerves
completely. There’s just no escaping it!

It’s about time to move away, now that Fitbit proves itself so
nonscientific and erratic.
BecS81
Jogger

Hey Fitbit, please update us on the status of this request. You have hundreds of unhappy comments so why not be respectful to the people who have spent a not insignificant amount of money on your product and tell them what's going on. If it's under consideration, someone sees merit in the request, what's so hard about actioning it?

cpc54
Recovery Runner

It would have been a no brainer to upgrade my Pixel watch 3 to the new watch 4 but because of the dreadful Fitbit implementation I don't think I'll bother. I recently bought an Oura Ring 4 instead. So far I'm happy with it although it's still learning about me. It's not judgemental and the hints and suggestions seem genuinely helpful. It's easier to wear a ring correctly than a watch and unlike my watch I don't have missing data because the watch is unable to read.  The ring is more health orientated than Fitbit.

 

Darch6827
First Steps

Agree so much this week. Yesterday I did a pre crossfit session, a crossfit class, an additional afternoon crossfit session (training for a comp) and a 52min walk. My body is sore beyond belief and it is telling me that I am at risk of under training. It is incredibly frustrating and demotivating. I’m about to head into surgery in a weeks time and will have to take time off training altogether and these types of messages will only make my mental state worse 

Esso1962
Recovery Runner
Just ignore it, for health’s sake….we all know the cardio load -and its
condescending messages- are a load of crap.

Best of luck with your surgery, you are certainly preparing in an excellent
way!!
artful_dodger
First Steps

I also don't want to be told how much exercise to do each day and would like the choice to remove the cardio load target. I am quite pleased if I hity own targets each day and at 72 I am not trying to win a marathon.

Esso1962
Recovery Runner
Exactly! It is so pedantic!! Mommy Fitbit knows what’s best for you…
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