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Diets Don't Work, so they say..  I've dieted many, many times and always ended up gaining it back.  I've tried cutting down and mindful eating (vs shoveling it in) - but unless I have some structure to follow I just don't do it.  I am picking up my exercise with my new fitbit, but can't overdo it because of bad knees.. I have a LOT to lose and find it hard to take baby steps.   I'm trying to change several habits at the same time.  I am succeeding with moving more, but not much else.  I do not need another failure to add to the long list of attempts.

 

What are you doing successfully?  Thanks!

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Sounds like you're doing great too!  Congrats.  When you have young kids it's as challenging as it is for us older people!  

Summer is more difficult for me because I live in Arizona and it's so hot and also more humid at this time of year.  I just ordered a couple of low impact DVDs from Amazon (Leslie Sansone Walk DVDs).  I used to use her VHS tapes a few years back during summer.  I can go to the Y which is what I did last year.  But the treadmill is harder on my knees these days than walking outdoors.

Keep up the good work!

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I have never been much of a dieter. I've carried around an extra 20 pounds or so for as long as I can remember. Lost my job one year, and suddenly packed on about 60 pounds on top of the extra 20.

 

So, I did what any nerd would do. I looked on the internet for advice. There's a great deal of information in this land ruled by sloths, hedgehogs and kittens. Most of it is conflicting. The biggest issue is we are all different. A diet that works for a female that's 5'8" and 170 pounds is not necessarily going to work for a female who's 5'2" and 150 pounds. Nor are they likely to work for a guy who's 5'10 and 280.

 

I'm basically lazy, just like my body. If I don't need to exert myself, I don't see much need to do so. The body is just like me, always finding the way to do things that expend the fewest calories possible. So, I decided to lift weights, with the premise being that more calories would burn during the 23 hours I wasn't in a gym, than if I just did cardio or just watched what I ate.

 

The math on dieting isn't lost on me. I can eat healthy with moderate portions all day long, but if I scarf down peanut butter on whole wheat just once, I'll negate the caloric reduction for the day.

 

I work on my feet most of the day at my job. Each work day, I burn about 3500 calories. On the weekends, if I totally relax and do next to nothing, I'll burn about 2500. So, as long as I don't consume more than 3000 calories, I'm on track to lose weight each week - just not very much. Initially, I was super excited about this new challenge. So, I did the "hard" method and took in about 2200 a day, which worked. But, when I reached my goal of 215...I was a bit out of sorts and not really sure what to do next. So, I had a cheat meal, which turned into a cheat day, then a cheat week. Then I put the brakes on and went back on my program, only I've raised the number of calories I can have to just maintain where I'm at.

In addition to eating healthy calories, I'm also trying to get my hormones working for me by lifting weights every day. I work different parts of the body over 3 days, so I don't have to skip a day.

 

I lift weights in the morning before work and on the weekends whenever I feel like it.

In the evenings, even though I walk about 10000 steps at work, I walk for another 30-45 minutes in my neighborhood. I'll try to keep things interesting by walking/jogging on the curb, trying to keep my balance instead of just strolling down the sidewalk.

 

My diet has really changed. I used to just eat poptarts and pizza. Now I cook pretty much every meal I eat, tracking the macronutrients along the way. I take a multi-vitamin in case I'm not getting the micronutrients I need with all these veggies and fruits.

It is expensive to eat healthy. It really boggles my mind why that is, too. I could save so much money if Ramen noodles were nutritious! My food budget has gone from about 250 a month to about 400. Hopefully, this healthy eating thing will translate into a healthier life with less interaction from pricy doctors.

My best advice for anyone is to portion and cook your own food. You'll like it better because you'll make it the way you like it, and you'll know exactly what's in it. Can't say that about all those prefabricated meals. Burn calories making your dinner, why not?

Those who have no idea what they are doing genuinely have no idea that they don't know what they're doing. - John Cleese
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I have to agree, eating healthy is a lot more expensive. We have a water drought in my neck of the woods, so food prices should also go up 😞

The good thing about weight loss, you eventually eat less as the pounds fall off.

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@petekottke wrote:

I have to agree, eating healthy is a lot more expensive. We have a water drought in my neck of the woods, so food prices should also go up 😞

The good thing about weight loss, you eventually eat less as the pounds fall off.


I don't know.  I guess alot depends on where you live and what is considered "eating healthy." Since March 23rd I've lost 46 pounds via a combination of fast walking (in South Texas heat) and calorie vigilence (I watch what I eat; eat lower calorie choices when I can; portion control; but eat almost everything that I want). I've given up peanut butter, but not my ice cream. For the week ending 7/27, I had a calorie deficit of over 10K calories and lost 3.5 pounds.

Right now my wife and I are on a fixed income so there are no frills in what I eat. I eat alot of salads, chicken and fish with a limited amount of red meat and bread.

PS: S. Texas is in a multi-year drought

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Cathy,

When I was in Weight Watchers I was very careful about counting the points.  Most members of my group started losing the 1st week.  By week 3 I had lost zero pounds.  My group leader actually accused me of cheating.  The 4th week I eliminated all starchy carbs even though they are allowed if withing the points.

That week I finally lost a little.  At weigh in the leader asked what I changed that week.  I said I eliminated carbs.  Her response:  "Oh, you stopped eating sweets".  My response:  "No, I wasn't eating sweets.  I eliminated potato, bread, pasta, rice, cereal".  I think the mind set with the group leaders is that everyone in WW has a problem with sweets.  It's frustrating to be accused of cheating when you aren't.  

So for me starchy carbs are a problem.

 

If you're in WW and not cheating but still not losing, I recommend that you try eliminating or reducing the starchy carbs.  Unfortunately, all of us can't eat everything that's allowed just because it's the proper portion, and still lose weight.

 

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Yes, the reason I haven't logged food in to FitBit log is that I was already logging it into my cell phone app 'Lose It'.  I didn't want to start re-entering the same things twice.  

I love that I can log HgbA1c & glucose & blood pressure on the FitBit log since I monitor those.

And I too like the sleep log since I have sleep issues.  

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I'm not technically gluten-intolerant to my knowledge either.  But I also eat minimal amounts of it because I lose weight easier and feel better.  And I don't eat sugar becasue I had been type 2 diabetic for the past couple of years.  With weight loss and elimination of sugar and most starcy carbs, I've reversed the diabeetes and I want to keep it that way!

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Offthewall:Your mention of 'trigger foods' bread and cheese, hits home with me!  I love bread & potatoes and also cheese.  I'm under the care of a physician for weight loss right now (since December 2013) and the starchy carbs such as bread are definitely a problem for me when trying to lose weight.  My doctor told me that cheese is also something to be careful with when you have a weight problem.

Also, contrary to the popular recommendation to only weigh once a week, my bariatric specialist (who has helped me avoid having to have surgery for weight loss) wants me to weigh daily even after I eventually reach goal weight.  She wants me to be aware immediately that I've gained too much and get back on track right away.

 

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Lew,

That's awesome!  You've done a great job of losing a lot of weight & become much healthier!  

I hadn't liked my appearance for a long time, but what finally really motivated me was the type 2 diabetes.

I've lost enough weight and made enough changes in my diet to have completely reversed the diabetes now. I have more weight to lose and you have inspired me by sharing your story!

 

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I keep seeing people say that they have "reversed" their diabetes, but I don't know what that means.  I'm diet and exercise controlled and have been for many years, but my diabetes is not gone.  It's always one plate of pasta away.

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@Lightsinger wrote:

I keep seeing people say that they have "reversed" their diabetes, but I don't know what that means.  I'm diet and exercise controlled and have been for many years, but my diabetes is not gone.  It's always one plate of pasta away.


After admonishment by several on this forum (and not so gentle admonishment) I come away with the thought that once you have diabetes, you are forever diabetic.  But, if you are no longer on Type II meds, your weight is down to your height/age standard, and you are maintaining your glucose in the 90-110 level, and you show no fatty deposits in your liver....What is the difference between a healthy person and what you are now?

 

I agree with you Lightsinger that it takes a slice of 7 layer chocolate cake or eggos with syrup and butter to drive that glucose level back up, but after a number of years of being off the meds, doesn't the body "reset" itself and you are in effect "diabetes free?"

 

Just food for thought and for discussion here.  I imagine I will once again catch flack for asking this, but I would really like your alls' opinions on this...

 

Lew

Lew Wagner
Author of Losing It - My Weight Loss Odyssey
Do or do not, there is no try - Yoda
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@LewWagner wrote:

@Lightsinger wrote:

I keep seeing people say that they have "reversed" their diabetes, but I don't know what that means.  I'm diet and exercise controlled and have been for many years, but my diabetes is not gone.  It's always one plate of pasta away.


After admonishment by several on this forum (and not so gentle admonishment) I come away with the thought that once you have diabetes, you are forever diabetic.  But, if you are no longer on Type II meds, your weight is down to your height/age standard, and you are maintaining your glucose in the 90-110 level, and you show no fatty deposits in your liver....What is the difference between a healthy person and what you are now?

 

I agree with you Lightsinger that it takes a slice of 7 layer chocolate cake or eggos with syrup and butter to drive that glucose level back up, but after a number of years of being off the meds, doesn't the body "reset" itself and you are in effect "diabetes free?"

 

Just food for thought and for discussion here.  I imagine I will once again catch flack for asking this, but I would really like your alls' opinions on this...

 

Lew


"Reset"?  No.   I've had Type 2 diabetes for 14 years -- and I've been well controlled that entire time. I don't have to take the medication at this time, but I understand that I must never stop controlling this disease. 

 

And before I'm accused of being Debbie Downer, let me also say this:  Diabetes was a wake up call for me.  I lost a substantial amount of weight, which has helped me control my diabetes so much more easily, and I'm happier and healthier now -- even with the disease -- than I had been for many years.  I have more energy, I feel better, and I have more stamina than I had since my 30s.  I have no complications whatsoever from diabetes and I sincerely believe that as long as I do the things I need to do to control it, my life can be as long and productive as that of someone without diabetes.  I was extremely fortunate to have caught the disease early and to have taken positive steps to control it, and I believe that many others can do exactly the same thing -- have seen them do it.  Do I have to make some concessions to the disease?  Sure...I have to eat healthy, keep my weight down, and test my glucose, but those are small adjustments, really.  They are the kinds of adjustments that anyone can benefit from, diabetic or not.  I'm not glad to have diabetes, but I'm glad that it's something I could wrestle into submission.  I want to see every Type 2 do that, too. 

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@Lightsinger 

Type 2 diabetes is not necessarily 'permanent'.  My doctor has monitored my blood sugar levels closely as I've been losing weight.  In lab tests for my A1c level I gradually dropped my A1c from 6.9 in November 2013

to 5.8 in April 2014.  My doctor categorized 5.8 as 'PRE-diabetes' instead of diabetes.  In November I was taking 2 medications to control my blood sugar.  As I lost weight and eliminated sugar and reduced starchy carbs from my diet and took daily walks, my A1c reduced as follows:

Aug 2013       6.9

Nov 2013       6.5

Feb 2014       6.0

March 2014   5.8 (pre-diabetic range) At this time I was taken off the remaining diabetes medication & told if I could get my level to 5.7 it would be normal.  I had my latest test 7/15/14 and it was 5.3 Normal - non diabetic!

Char

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So are you saying that you can now eat whatever you want to eat, in whatever quantities you want to eat it, and not exercise or do anything to control your numbers? 


@Char-K wrote:

@Lightsinger 

Type 2 diabetes is not necessarily 'permanent'.  My doctor has monitored my blood sugar levels closely as I've been losing weight.  In lab tests for my A1c level I gradually dropped my A1c from 6.9 in November 2013

to 5.8 in April 2014.  My doctor categorized 5.8 as 'PRE-diabetes' instead of diabetes.  In November I was taking 2 medications to control my blood sugar.  As I lost weight and eliminated sugar and reduced starchy carbs from my diet and took daily walks, my A1c reduced as follows:

Aug 2013       6.9

Nov 2013       6.5

Feb 2014       6.0

March 2014   5.8 (pre-diabetic range) At this time I was taken off the remaining diabetes medication & told if I could get my level to 5.7 it would be normal.  I had my latest test 7/15/14 and it was 5.3 Normal - non diabetic!

Char


 

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Char-K & Lightsinger,

 

Thanks for your input.  My glucose A1C reading from 2008 to 2011 was in the teens and then in 2013 from 9 down to 5.7 as of June this year.  But, this latest is WITH metaformin (500 mg horse pills).  My glucose level is anywhere from 90-110 on a daily basis.  I don't know that if I got off Metaformin that I wouldn't shoot higher on glucose and then A1C so I don't know if diet and exercise alone mean's you are "free."

 

I've sent the same question to my doctor on my patient portal, but I fear that Lightsinger and others are correct that I'm stuck with diabetes regardless of whether I'm on meds or not....

 

Lew

Lew Wagner
Author of Losing It - My Weight Loss Odyssey
Do or do not, there is no try - Yoda
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@LewWagner wrote:

Char-K & Lightsinger,

 

Thanks for your input.  My glucose A1C reading from 2008 to 2011 was in the teens and then in 2013 from 9 down to 5.7 as of June this year.  But, this latest is WITH metaformin (500 mg horse pills).  My glucose level is anywhere from 90-110 on a daily basis.  I don't know that if I got off Metaformin that I wouldn't shoot higher on glucose and then A1C so I don't know if diet and exercise alone mean's you are "free."

 

I've sent the same question to my doctor on my patient portal, but I fear that Lightsinger and others are correct that I'm stuck with diabetes regardless of whether I'm on meds or not....

 

Lew


If you haven't gone to the American Diabetes Association website, I really recommend it.  In particular, I recommend the community forums, because those folks have given me so much support and information over the years.  It has made staying controlled so much easier.   🙂   I'm not affiliated with the ADA, and I don't always agree with some of their official advice, but the people who come there have a lifetime of experience with this disease and have given me some really helpful information about how best to control it on a practical, day-to-day basis.  That and a really great doctor have made my life so much easier than it was for my mother, who died of complications of diabetes much too young.  I'm blessed to live in this day and time.   

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 @Lightsinger Regarding your question 'So are you saying that you can now eat whatever you want to eat, in whatever quantities you want to eat it, and not exercise or do anything to control your numbers? '

 

No, I'm not saying that I can pig out on sweets, overload on carbs, gain back the weight and not have my blood sugar go out of control again.  I had gotten overweight and with that came the type 2 diabetes.  I need to continue with the changes in how I eat to maintain normal blood sugar levels.  I turned 70 in July and I can't eat as many calories in a day as I did when I was younger.  I didn't really begin to have weight problems until I was in my 50s.  I'm also hypothyroid so weight loss doesn't come easy.  

As for exercise, I can't walk as fast or as far as I used to now that I have arthritis and deteriorated cartilage in the knees.  But I walk for 30 to 45 minutes 4 or 5 days a week.  On weekends in the winter, I take hikes of around 3 miles.  I live in Arizona so it's too hot now.  I have for now reversed the diabetes and I plan to keep it that way.  But I'll have to continue eating the right way and not let my weight get out of control again in order to do that.  

I'm not even saying that everyone can reverse type 2.  I don't know.  Maybe it depends on how long you've had diabetes.  For example I think Lew said he's had it 14 years and now has his A1c down to 5.7 after being in the teens but he's still on Metformin. That's an awesome improvement for Lew so he's obviously doing something right!

I've had diabetes for slightly less than 3 years.  I was on those huge Metformin pills too and Glipizide.  Now I do not take any medications for my blood sugar.  My doctor took me off Glipizide in Feb, reduced my Metformin dose in March & took me completely off Metformin in April.  So without any diabetes medications at all between April and July my A1c lowered from 5.8 to 5.3.  

I hope this clarifies what I wrote previously.  

Char

 

 

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Hi Lew,

I think that you're doing a great job to have gotten your A1c down from the teens to 5.7 even if it IS with Metformin.  (Yes I took those horse pills too!).  You're obviously doing things right!

As I just responded to Lightsinger when she asked if I could now eat everything I want and not exercise and not raise my blood sugar, of course not.  I must have given her the wrong impression in my other post where I posted that I have reversed my type 2 diabetes.  I HAVE reversed it, but I know that I could go right back into that diabetic slot if I didn't continue to eat properly and maintain weight loss.  And I don't know if everyone with type 2 can reverse it.  I just know that I did and that some people can.  Even if they can't completely reverse it, they can do what you've done so far and control it much better!

And sometimes that means at least less medications or reduced doses of those medications.  Anything we can do to improve the situation is better!  And if my posting that I reversed it in my case gives another person hope that they might have the same success if they take control and eat the right things and control portions and get even a little exercise, then I think it was worth posting.  

Continued success to all of us!!!

Char

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@Char-K wrote:

Hi Lew,

I think that you're doing a great job to have gotten your A1c down from the teens to 5.7 even if it IS with Metformin.  (Yes I took those horse pills too!).  You're obviously doing things right!

As I just responded to Lightsinger when she asked if I could now eat everything I want and not exercise and not raise my blood sugar, of course not.  I must have given her the wrong impression in my other post where I posted that I have reversed my type 2 diabetes.  I HAVE reversed it, but I know that I could go right back into that diabetic slot if I didn't continue to eat properly and maintain weight loss.  And I don't know if everyone with type 2 can reverse it.  I just know that I did and that some people can.  Even if they can't completely reverse it, they can do what you've done so far and control it much better!

And sometimes that means at least less medications or reduced doses of those medications.  Anything we can do to improve the situation is better!  And if my posting that I reversed it in my case gives another person hope that they might have the same success if they take control and eat the right things and control portions and get even a little exercise, then I think it was worth posting.  

Continued success to all of us!!!

Char


When I see the word "reversed" I think "cure" not well controlled, which is what I think you mean.  That's great!  I believe that a lot more of us can get diabetes totally under control that way, just as you have, and just as I have.  My A1c has been 5.4-5.9 for the last 14 years (yes...I'm the 14 year veteran) and I know a lot of other Type 2s who have done the same thing for 20 years or more.  (I also know a lot of people who were "normal" weight when they were diagnosed Type 2, so losing  isn't always the help that it has been for me.)  I started to gain weight in my 20s, and fought my weight all of my life, so I had gained and lost at least two people in my lifetime.  I also won the genetic lottery, since my mother was also Type 2.  I'll be 67 in October, so I'm not far behind you.  😉  I also live in Arizona!   My walking this time of year is restricted to walking in shopping malls, but it sure beats trying to walk outside in 110 degrees! 

 

I don't consider my diabetes reversed, only controlled, which is my reminder that I must work at it every day of my life, by eating a diabetes friendly food regimen and exercising to the best of my ability, and making sure that I continue to test my blood glucose every morning and after meals at my peak.   

 

I'm glad to hear that you're doing well.  🙂  We all need a little cheering on, whether it's to lose weight, or stay fit, or just for moral support. 

 

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Dipgal,

 

I have never in my life, I mean EVER been as committed to working out and dieting as I have now. Don't get me wrong, I've tried and failed. Tried again and failed - over and over. But for the first time ever in my life I am now well over 60 days working out consistently and eating way better.

 

Habits. It's all about habits. If you ever get a chance, pick up The Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg - and learn about your habits in and out. Recognize them like the back of your hand. Once you are able to do that - you can tear it apart and rebuild it from the ground up.

 

Start in bits and pieces - for me, I started with no more soda/sugar period. I went one week doing that and added to it - no more chinese food, etc.. etc.. and would remove more of the stuff we know very well aren't too good for us.

 

READ READ READ!! The more I read up on it, I found that what I was doing just makes sense. Prove to yourself that what you are doing is just the better choice. Read up on nutrition and try and understand it.

 

Then in early June I picked up Beachbody's T25 workout with Shaun T - and 3 weeks after doing that, I started doing the Men's Health Ab Workout routine - I've been going at it and every day is a challenge - but it's true what they say - you just get used to it.

 

I'd be more than happy to provide support and am an awesome cheerleader if you ever want to talk!

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